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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    So "real life" to you is the excusal from personal responsibility? You prove my point of the mindset of entitlements and freedom from responsibility becoming all too common.
    No "real life" to me is realizing that teenagers are NOT always responsible. Sometimes the parents ARE to blame, and sometimes that is just life. NOBODY is perfect. Got that?

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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    Why in the world are the kids of today excused from the responsibility of abstinence to prevent the risk of pissing away their future? This statement just supports my view that personal responsibility is continuously on the decline in this country. We overgeneralize the statement that it's okay to make mistakes by supporting this kind of crap. Teach the kids about how they'll most likely make their future painfully challenging if they get a disease or have a kid too early. If they wait until they graduate and prepare for work to secure their future, they have how many years left to screw?
    You are correct. Responsibility IS on the decline. However, insisting that people who have no intention of being responsible EVER is ludicrous. Maybe their children can learn if someone helps them, and that will NOT be their parents if what I have seen in community health is any indication. And I believe it is.
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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    The point is that teen pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases are BIG problems, and a lot of parents do NOT talk to their kids about it.

    What is more destructive and costly? Condoms or unwanted pregnancies and diseases?
    Being an NP, I can say with authority that teen pregnancy and STDs are already costly and destructive. Most people have no real clue the depth and breadth of the problem.
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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    The kids of today are not doing anything that kids didn't always do. It was just hidden and brushed under the carpet so many years ago when they would send pregnant teens to special homes so that the community wouldn't know.
    Where I live, the shotgun wedding was the order of the day! LOL. Those people became responsible pretty fast. But these days they just go on welfare.
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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    The point is that teen pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases are BIG problems, and a lot of parents do NOT talk to their kids about it.
    Much like it ever was in many ways.

    What is more destructive and costly? Condoms or unwanted pregnancies and diseases?
    You mean in what way is the government spending less to cover up the mistakes of people. There is already ways to get free condoms at this very moment, so all you are really dealing with here is the distribution system in which they are given for free. Since the teens are not using these other outlets or even buying themselves while having the knowledge on why they should use them it clear they have no interest in doing it in the first place and as such the idea fails to save money for the government.

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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I am so happy I don't have kids. I don't have to worry about this stuff, but I still think raising a baby as a teen makes it more difficult to go to college and have a higher quality of life. I am for doing everything to prevent teen pregnancy. If free condoms cuts the rate, I see nothing wrong with it. Condoms should probably used by more adults as well. Bars and pubs probably need dispensers too.
    Eau contraire. You DO deal with it through the taxes you pay. And teens who get pregnant do not aspire to higher learning. Many just aspire to be a baby mamma and draw a check.
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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    You are correct. Responsibility IS on the decline. However, insisting that people who have no intention of being responsible EVER is ludicrous. Maybe their children can learn if someone helps them, and that will NOT be their parents if what I have seen in community health is any indication. And I believe it is.
    Many people have to learn to be responsible by feeling the pain of being irresponsible.

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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    Then instead of telling me to buy these kids' condoms, you should criticize the parents and tell them to get their crap together when it comes to parenting. Continuing my point about the lack of responsibility, you are excusing and/or ignoring the irresponsibility of parents.
    I've worked with the parents in community health. I would lke to see you go and critizise them and tell them to get their crap together. Report back when you have done that. Until then, you are clueless.
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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    Teaching the hidden reward of not mucking up your future by being abstinent until prepared is another solution, mine avoiding the wasting of tax dollars.
    The class of people to whom you refer do not see a future for themselves. Most live in generational poverty and see nothing beyond the present day.

    -- Belief in fate.

    Many people in poverty believe destiny and fate control their lives, and they might not think they have a choice about what happens in their lives.

    Time.

    “Time occurs only in the present,” Payne writes. “The future does not exist except as a word.”
    Families in generational poverty form their own culture -- GazetteXtra

    They would merely see your words on the matter to be babblings of an idiot.

    I have, however, worked with some who did manage to aspire to college and get through it. They were very disappointment and extremely angry to realize that being a social worker and making $20K/year just isn't enough to put in in the pimp mobile.
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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    Lose the childish personal attacks.



    Please read post #50 again. I never said anything about parents avoiding sex talk. In fact, I am complaining about parents not teaching personal responsibility.
    You want parents to raise their children based on your morals. If a child isn't pregnant, then why are concerned with how the individual chooses to avoid pregnancy and how the parent raises them?

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