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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    What YOU are not understanding is that there is a generation out there that is NOT going to live any way except off someone else. You really need to do a little slumming and see the numbers. This government is not going to do what you suggest because it is not prepared for the civil unrest. Reality is reality. And you clearly have never worked with the welfare class. So you don't see reality. Your theory will not hold up.
    I don't know why you think I don't understand that?

    I see reality, and want to see that generation cut off, regardless of unrest. Civil unrest will be temporary, and even if the misery is acute, it is far better than the slow but ensured death by parasites.

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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    So it's the threat of forced sterilization.
    How is it a threat? It's a trade off. In order to qualify for someone else's money, you have to give something up. You're not just "entitled to it".

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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    I would agree with mandatory birth control or even temporary sterilizations, however I think that would give the government too much control over people. IMO, that would be a big mistake.

    We also have to remember that SOME people do use the system as it was meant to be used, as a stepping stone for those who are going through a difficult time in life for whatever reasons. That is why I still want there to be a welfare program. Sometimes people go through a rough patch in their lives and need some help. I am all for helping people until they can get back on their feet again.

    What I'm against is people that take advantage of the system.

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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I would agree with mandatory birth control or even temporary sterilizations, however I think that would give the government too much control over people. IMO, that would be a big mistake.

    We also have to remember that SOME people do use the system as it was meant to be used, as a stepping stone for those who are going through a difficult time in life for whatever reasons. That is why I still want there to be a welfare program. Sometimes people go through a rough patch in their lives and need some help. I am all for helping people until they can get back on their feet again.

    What I'm against is people that take advantage of the system.
    I agree. But welfare should only be for a very limited time. 6 months, maybe a year, (and only if you do not draw unemployment) if you haven't found other employment by then, you get moved to work camps/farms and have your basic needs taken care of there while providing labor in exchange. I am not talking about "modern" farming or "heavy equipment" construction either, more along the lines of Amish style farming and construction as it existed circa 1900, sex segregated bunk houses, with allowances for child care (one parent, and one parent only can bunk in a special bunk house for children).
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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    I agree. But welfare should only be for a very limited time. 6 months, maybe a year, (and only if you do not draw unemployment) if you haven't found other employment by then, you get moved to work camps/farms and have your basic needs taken care of there while providing labor in exchange. I am not talking about "modern" farming or "heavy equipment" construction either, more along the lines of Amish style farming and construction as it existed circa 1900, sex segregated bunk houses, with allowances for child care (one parent, and one parent only can bunk in a special bunk house for children).
    I think it should be on a case-by-case basis. What about a 15, 16 or 17-year-old girl who gets pregnant and has a child? We should at least give them time enough to finish high school and perhaps some kind of training program or higher education to be able to make enough money to support a child independently.

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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I think it should be on a case-by-case basis. What about a 15, 16 or 17-year-old girl who gets pregnant and has a child? We should at least give them time enough to finish high school and perhaps some kind of training program or higher education to be able to make enough money to support a child independently.

    I think for young women of that age that are with child, need to along side of collecting their limited benefits, mandatory obtaining at least a GED, and some sort of vocational training (ie CNA, or Med records transcriber, etc.) in order to transition off of welfare with a job within a year.
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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I think for young women of that age that are with child, need to along side of collecting their limited benefits, mandatory obtaining at least a GED, and some sort of vocational training (ie CNA, or Med records transcriber, etc.) in order to transition off of welfare with a job within a year.
    Totally agree with some kind of mandatory job training. I don't know WHY they don't do that already.

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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    If schools want to give away condoms, OK. I'm cool with that. What I am not cool with is them forcing me to pay for them. Let the educators take the money out of their own pockets to fund it.
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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    If schools want to give away condoms, OK. I'm cool with that. What I am not cool with is them forcing me to pay for them. Let the educators take the money out of their own pockets to fund it.
    You're not forced to pay for them. You're forced to pay taxes. After that it's not your money anymore.
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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    You're not forced to pay for them. You're forced to pay taxes. After that it's not your money anymore.

    According to progressives, none of it is our money....Only that which they allow us to keep.
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