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    Re: North Korea confirms arrest of US citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    What they are not telling you is the unicorn is actually kim jong un's shadow while bending over and turtle heading it. Kim Jong Un: "Hey guys, look, I'm a unicorn!"
    Believe it or not Kim Jong-Un was educated in Switzerland and lived a total "western" lifestyle - so he damn well knows everything the North Koreans feed their people is a bunch of nonsense and outright lies... It's difficult for me to imagine how a kid with such knowledge who knows the truth could lie to his own people. He damn well knows North Korea is a crap hole yet continues his fathers (and grandfathers) lies.

    Here he is when he was 13-14 years old.



    Here is the original class photo..



    So how does one go from a normal kid to a sociopathic dictator?

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    Re: North Korea confirms arrest of US citizen

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    Judging by where you live? You should visit Oz.
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    Re: North Korea confirms arrest of US citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    NOf course when you visit (which is nearly impossible) you have to pretend you believe all of it despite the fact it is all a bunch of BS.
    from my understanding it's not as hard as you keep claiming, and evidence has been provided to confirm this. Secondly, I'm still not seeing the great sin in playing lip service to the demands of a culture during travel, regardless of how backwards it actually is.


    You know, the whole Rome thing

    PS it's hilarious that some of you guys are getting irate over someone saying they want to travel to NK. Seriously, lay off the internet outrage

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    Re: North Korea confirms arrest of US citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    No, actually no they're not more honest than a circus.

    Remember North Koreans believe Kim Jong Il is basically "Jesus" and his father, Kim Il-Sung is basically God. Remember North Koreans believe Kim Jong-Il invented the hamburger and could regularly shoot a perfect round of golf, among other insane accusations the typical North Korean is fed by the government owned media.

    North Korea is the definition of a cult of personality... You do as you're told and believe what the state tells you and if you don't then you and your family will be murdered or locked in anyone of their numerous prison camps.

    There is a reason why there is a DMZ littered with land mines - and it's not to keep people out - it's to keep people in. People are forced to live in North Korea - they don't choose to live in North Korea.

    North Koreans are brainwashed to believe that they are the pinnacle of the world and the most advanced nation on earth - while every other nation is starving and wants North Koreas resources....

    Of course when you visit (which is nearly impossible) you have to pretend you believe all of it despite the fact it is all a bunch of BS.

    GWBush explained it all when he said they're a land of evil-doers and then he forgot to invade them, but I suppose it's OK because he invaded everybody else, except Iran. He just say they was evil, he didn't say they had any OIL. NK don't got politicians like we has here, don't ya know? Everylthing on the shoulders o' just one boss, unlike the US of A that had like Dick Cheney telling his boy George when to crap etc. That over the shoulder guidance is missing in them evil-doer places. That crook A. Q. Khan, from Pakistan, helped them develop their atomic bomb and GWBush sure punished him by making him a hero in Pakistan and then allying with OBL's benefactor, again Pakistan, to right the world and smite them evil-doers. Where's good help when it's needed, eh?

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    Re: North Korea confirms arrest of US citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    from my understanding it's not as hard as you keep claiming, and evidence has been provided to confirm this. Secondly, I'm still not seeing the great sin in playing lip service to the demands of a culture during travel, regardless of how backwards it actually is.


    You know, the whole Rome thing

    PS it's hilarious that some of you guys are getting irate over someone saying they want to travel to NK. Seriously, lay off the internet outrage
    I don't care about what others do.

    I wouldn't mind visiting North Korea, however I would have a serious problem with the: "When in Rome live like a Roman" thing.

    It is extremely hard to get into North Korea, and those who do get in do not have "free movement" they are constantly guarded. So it's not exactly like they can check into a hotel and choose to go about as they wish. They eat when they're told to, they go out when they're told to - they go where they're told to. It's pretty much a tour, yet you have a tour guide with you 24-7 who decides what you do and when you do it, and if you have a problem with that they will boot you out of the country in a nanosecond because they don't want you there in the first place.

    If I went to North Korea I would want to see the prison camps and the rural areas - which they would never show you. What they do is give you a propaganda tour of the "privileged" areas which are nothing but rewards for the people who play by the rules while the majority of North Koreans are starving...

    Not to mention they continually degrade the "west" or the "Yankees" as they call us when you visit. They'll show you downed planes from the Korean War and be like: "we shot that Yankee down, as you can see here is his bloody weak military clothing" as-if killing someone is good.
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    Re: North Korea confirms arrest of US citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I don't care about what others do.
    well, when we consider your incessant complaining about people merely denoting a desire to visit NK we can conclude that as clearly "not true"

    I wouldn't mind visiting North Korea, however I would have a serious problem with the: "When in Rome live like a Roman" thing.
    It sort of comes with traveling, especially if you tend to go someplace more exotic than the international village at the Epcot Center

    [quote]It is extremely hard to get into North Korea, and those who do get in do not have "free movement" they are constantly guarded.[/quoted]

    it's difficult, but not the impossibility you keep claiming. In fact, the two biggest hurdles seem to be an interest in actually going and a willingness to pay a premium for ****ty accommodation and food. Bhutan used to be much the same way.

    So it's not exactly like they can check into a hotel and choose to go about as they wish.
    I'm not sure how that amounts to travel being impossible.


    They eat when they're told to, they go out when they're told to - they go where they're told to. It's pretty much a tour, yet you have a tour guide with you 24-7 who decides what you do and when you do it, and if you have a problem with that they will boot you out of the country in a nanosecond because they don't want you there in the first place.
    I am pretty sure no one here is confusing a vacation to NK with Burning Man, especially since everyone that mentioned an interest to travel there also noted it's insular nature, cultish fanaticism, and just general weirdness.

    If I went to North Korea I would want to see the prison camps and the rural areas - which they would never show you. What they do is give you a propaganda tour of the "privileged" areas which are nothing but rewards for the people who play by the rules while the majority of North Koreans are starving...
    Yes, we all know NK is a totalitarian **** hole-it has only been stressed EVERYTIME you decided to moan about something. But I'm pretty sure that's why people want to go there: because it's strange, alien, and about as far removed from our everyday lives as you could imagine

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    Re: North Korea confirms arrest of US citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    GWBush explained it all when he said they're a land of evil-doers and then he forgot to invade them, but I suppose it's OK because he invaded everybody else, except Iran. He just say they was evil, he didn't say they had any OIL. NK don't got politicians like we has here, don't ya know? Everylthing on the shoulders o' just one boss, unlike the US of A that had like Dick Cheney telling his boy George when to crap etc. That over the shoulder guidance is missing in them evil-doer places. That crook A. Q. Khan, from Pakistan, helped them develop their atomic bomb and GWBush sure punished him by making him a hero in Pakistan and then allying with OBL's benefactor, again Pakistan, to right the world and smite them evil-doers. Where's good help when it's needed, eh?
    The problem is we cannot go to war with North Korea. For some reason China and Russia play North Koreas big brothers, and the US has absolutely no desire to go to war with China or Russia for obvious reasons.

    I will say our diplomatic approach to North Korea via guys like Clinton and Carter pisses me off.. We've given North Korea so much aid NOT to develop nukes (or any weaponry) in exchange for aid, yet they turn around and build weaponry anyways.

    It will only get worse from here. Our failing economy (currency) and Chinas growing (yet manipulated) economy (currency) does nothing more than empower North Korea, allowing North Korea to do whatever it pleases, because we're stuck kissing their big bros arse (China).

    It's geopolitics at its finest.

    IMO, I don't think China would do anything if North Korea was liberated by force. They'd be mad, but I don't see them taking the action into WWIII mode over a craphole like North Korea.

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    Re: North Korea confirms arrest of US citizen

    [QUOTE=Dr. Chuckles;1061291954]well, when we consider your incessant complaining about people merely denoting a desire to visit NK we can conclude that as clearly "not true"



    It sort of comes with traveling, especially if you tend to go someplace more exotic than the international village at the Epcot Center

    It is extremely hard to get into North Korea, and those who do get in do not have "free movement" they are constantly guarded.[/quoted]

    it's difficult, but not the impossibility you keep claiming. In fact, the two biggest hurdles seem to be an interest in actually going and a willingness to pay a premium for ****ty accommodation and food. Bhutan used to be much the same way.



    I'm not sure how that amounts to travel being impossible.




    I am pretty sure no one here is confusing a vacation to NK with Burning Man, especially since everyone that mentioned an interest to travel there also noted it's insular nature, cultish fanaticism, and just general weirdness.



    Yes, we all know NK is a totalitarian **** hole-it has only been stressed EVERYTIME you decided to moan about something. But I'm pretty sure that's why people want to go there: because it's strange, alien, and about as far removed from our everyday lives as you could imagine

    Apparently you have a problem with me stating facts about North Korea.

    I could care less where people go. Hell, even I said it would be an interesting visit.

    All I'm saying is that a visit to North Korea would be useless because it would be a propaganda tour. They won't show you the real North Korea. It would be like going to "The Loop" in Chicago and not seeing the rest of the city, only by guards aka tour guides.

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    Re: North Korea confirms arrest of US citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Apparently you have a problem with me stating facts about North Korea.
    actually, I have a problem with your need to define an interest in traveling to NK with support for the regime and it's policy.

    See: http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1061290720

    Also, I am unsure how you could come to the conclusion I am trying to protect NK's image when I have already called it a totalitarianism **** hole.


    I could care less where people go. Hell, even I said it would be an interesting visit.
    Yet, your activity in this thread clearly shows you do care, and based on some rather bizarre assumptions that have no basis in reality





    All I'm saying is that a visit to North Korea would be useless because it would be a propaganda tour.
    No~!!! And all this time I was planning to snort meth from the dear leaders cleavage. Yes, we all know that, and such was even stressed every time someone noted an interest in traveling there. Which is why your accusations of such amounting to support for the regime seem so freaking bizarre and divorced from anything called reality


    They won't show you the real North Korea.
    I find this truly shocking ...

    It would be like going to "The Loop" in Chicago and not seeing the rest of the city, only by guards aka tour guides.
    I don't believe it ...

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    Re: North Korea confirms arrest of US citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    China is not North Korea, China welcomes US citizens and the Chinese authorities regularly overlook minor infractions that otherwise Chinese citizens would pay a "toll" for. China is certainly interesting but hardly (and presently) North Korea.
    And in your vast experience, how long did you spend there?
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