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NRA Newtown response [W:818]

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Eighty Deuce said:
Here we go with the same old PowerBobby nonsense again. Where's my hip waders ?

Stupid bull**** from the usual suspects.
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You just claimed some kind of condescending victory in a previous post and now you are resorting to personal attacks. :lol:
 
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poweRob said:
As much as you try to claim it, progressives didn't build the societal ills you are complaining about. Shifting economy built it. It's not a result of "if it feels good do it" mentality or lack of church or anyting like that. During the 80's everything shifted from one income households to a two income household... due to economic pressures to do so. If you want a breakdown in family and what they used to call, "latch-key kids" start looking there. Then at the miraculous appearance of an abundance of cheap cocaine from out of nowhere.
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You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Sorry but your ignorance is astounding.....

You do realize the progressive party is 100 years old? you do realize they have been preaching tolerance and liberalism since then? you do realize these "tolerance and hippie monsters" blew up buildings and killed people in the name of tolerance, greed and the hate for government (SDS Weather Underground) - now these alleged "liberals" control our government, are professors at universities and some of the wealthiest people around?

These hypocrites who claimed they were fighting for freedom of mind are now controlling your mind - not only that but they believe government should take away civil liberties that THEY don't agree with. In the progressive mindset gay marriage should be legal (as an example) but guns should be illegal despite the BILL OF RIGHTS (THE SECOND AMENDMENT). I don't see any "gay marriage amendment" if you know where one is then show your citation But you don't care because you only care when the Second Amendment justifies your position on an issue. You don't take freedom as whole - you only take what you agree with.

In short - progressives not only breed welfare and raging lunatics but they also breed tyranny and tyrants.
 
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Eighty Deuce said:
Yo. Those contributed. But working Moms, and kids OK in daycare, were an outgrowth of the feminist movement. Not "economic pressures", as inflation in anything is driven by demand. The 80's were boom times in household incomes. Hardly the stuff of "pressures".

The greatest single correlation in crime in the US is unwed Moms of the felons. It is not cocaine. Its not being black. Numero Uno is no father in the home. That blacks lead in that category is the link that makes them more likely to be felons. Cocaine users.

You are over-matched until you decide to start to post less until you know more.
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More uncited bullcrap speculation followed by more phony condescending self-flagellation victory dancing. Like I said before, knock yourself out. :lol:
 
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poweRob said:
Right, because common knowledge tells us that progressive households are just littered with guns.
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They are? I was under the impression that only conservative households were littered that way...you CAN substantiate this, right?
 
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Mr.Nick said:
You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Sorry but your ignorance is astounding.....
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Okay...

Mr.Nick said:
it's the progressive ideology that breeds these school shootings/mass homicides.
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Mr.Nick said:
My point was that progressives breed killers
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poweRob said:
Citation needed
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Mr.Nick said:
I don't need to cite what I have observed.
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Prey tell... do go on about MY ignorance. :lol:
 
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poweRob said:
That's all you needed to say. You say you don't but the fact is you can't. This comment is in direct scynch with another poster noted in my sig.
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Really genius? how can anyone cite what they socially observe?

Besides, you proved my social point anyways - you tried to imply I'm an idiot and used one sentence to do so.... You prove my point!
 
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Dickieboy said:
They are? I was under the impression that only conservative households were littered that way...you CAN substantiate this, right?
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Listen, I'm not claiming these guys are conservative. I'm simply defending against the idiotic notion that these two brilliant geniuses in this thread that are claiming that liberals and progressives have created the whole mass shooter/killers and/or their environment to "breed" them.
 
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poweRob said:
Okay...









Prey tell... do go on about MY ignorance. :lol:
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Well you just did..

You don't even know the difference between "prey" and "pray" :lol: yet, you know everything.

You're not even intelligent enough to debate with...

Finish the 5th grade then talk to me..
 
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Mr.Nick said:
Really genius? how can anyone cite what they socially observe?

Besides, you proved my social point anyways - you tried to imply I'm an idiot and used one sentence to do so.... You prove my point!
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nahhh.. you give me too much credit. It is YOU that's proved my point. Because lord knows your inability to prove anything you've claimed shows that you can't prove your own point.
 
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poweRob said:
Listen, I'm not claiming these guys are conservative. I'm simply defending against the idiotic notion that these two brilliant geniuses in this thread that are claiming that liberals and progressives have created the whole mass shooter/killers and/or their environment to "breed" them.
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Is it your position that 'liberals and progressives' are totally innocent?
 
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Dickieboy said:
Is it your position that 'liberals and progressives' are totally innocent?
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of what? I've not once claimed this shooting was conservative nor liberal/progressive. This fingerpointing isn't coming from me. I'm simply just countering ridiculous notions that these guys are throwing about... and at the same time not backing up with any proof.
 
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poweRob said:
nahhh.. you give me too much credit. It is YOU that's proved my point. Because lord knows your inability to prove anything you've claimed shows that you can't prove your own point.
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Really? so how can observations be cited?

It's a simple blunt question.
 
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poweRob said:
of what? I've not once claimed this shooting was conservative nor liberal/progressive. This fingerpointing isn't coming from me. I'm simply just countering ridiculous notions that these guys are throwing about... and at the same time not backing up with any proof.
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Yet you want to ban the Second Amendment...
 
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poweRob said:
Listen, I'm not claiming these guys are conservative. I'm simply defending against the idiotic notion that these two brilliant geniuses in this thread that are claiming that liberals and progressives have created the whole mass shooter/killers and/or their environment to "breed" them.
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It did not "create" madness and evil, or the opportunity for such to foment mayhem. It has assisted in such.

These killers are not your usual church-goers. They are far more likely to be a product of broken homes, participation in violent internet portals, and a lack of any cracked whip.

The modern progressive society. It is no lame claim that where religion exists less, evil exists more. Where basic tarditional values exist less, abherrent behavior exists more.

Worry not liberal. As I said earlier, the horse is not going back in the barn.
 
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Mr.Nick said:
Really? so how can observations be cited?

It's a simple blunt question.
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Sure, if they are credible observations, you wouldn't be the only one talking about it and it would be a peer reviewed study to back it up. UNLESS, it is so new that the topic hasn't been broached yet in professional studies. Being that everything you are claiming is decades in the making, and you can't back it up... kind of speaks for itself.
 
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Mr.Nick said:
Yet you want to ban the Second Amendment...
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No I don't. Know who you are talking to before saddling them with false blame.
 
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tererun said:
No, you don't get it. You are not saving anyone. you are not a hero. You are not protecting the world. The reality is that if gunshots started around you and you had an obvious assault rifle you would be dead. Why? because anyone with even the most smallest of brain shoots the armed man first. yeah, you are there with your assault rifle and all that makes you is a gigantic target. If you do survive the police will have trouble telling you from the actual shooter and you will just confuse the situation. That is reality. You need to stop living in the movies. From your perception the gunfire starts and while you are trying to figure out whether or not the shooting is over or still a threat and where to go the killer is moving on and will eventually see you. You don't know what is going on, and you are clearly a scared rabbit ready to twitch fire and frankly I would much rather you not fire. I don't trust your reasoning or abilities. I know you are far more likely to be a danger to the people around you and an interference to law enforcement than saving the day. believe me, you don't want people like me armed around you because you would be one of the people I would take down. If it has a gun and is not a police officer I would waste it. That means you hero boy.
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Nope, still oblivious and still responding in emotional nonsensical platitudes and suppositions. You realize he took his own life when a police officer responded right ? That he had enough ammo plus shotgun in his car and most likely the determination to continue shooting innocent teachers and children.

I don't live in the movies and if anyone is caught up in a fantasy it's you who've apparently used your years of criminology experience and knowledge to ascertain the exact motives of a killer who's so unbalanced emotionally he's chosen mass homicide as a solution to his problems.

Yep, you've nailed down every psycho killer as a highly trained Special Forces Commando who's first thought after shooing away imaginary flying purple monkeys is to perform a recon of the perimeter and locate and identify possible counter forces. And you don't trust MY reasoning or abilities ?

My reasoning and/or abilities are just fine and a armed law abiding populace is a polite and well protected populace but we have to deal with nonsense from the likes of you as you rattle of hypothetical scenario's with out the slightest concept of what it takes to lawfully own, carry or use a firearm.

Your reasoning is to have the PSYCHO ARMED, and everyone else cowering and waiting to eat a bullet because you're scared of a firearm or don't possess the training or the courage to take it upon yourself to protect your self or the lives of your family.

That's your problem and you need to understand that your cowardice doesn't equate to a disarmed society.
 
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poweRob said:
Sure, if they are credible observations, you wouldn't be the only one talking about it and it would be a peer reviewed study to back it up. UNLESS, it is so new that the topic hasn't been broached yet in professional studies. Being that everything you are claiming is decades in the making, and you can't back it up... kind of speaks for itself.
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You want to see it happen?

My uncle is a professor at UIC (and a friend of Bill Ayers), on Christmas I'm pulling out the camera and how a guy with a PHD in physics reverts into a child over politics along with the other over dramatic progressives in my family.

Not to mention you already proved my theory by treating me as hostile.

Not to mention - there would be no damn study that would even study the fact that the progressive socioeconomic philosophy breeds crazies because the majority of those able to conduct "institutional" studies are PROGRESSIVES in the first place!
 
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poweRob said:
No I don't. Know who you are talking to before saddling them with false blame.
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Then why the hell are you in this thread?

NO, you don't want to ban the Second Amendment - you just want to limit individuals to cap guns!

I would love to know how you interpret the Second Amendment. I'll guess - "hunt for food." :lol:
 
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Mr.Nick said:
You want to see it happen?

My uncle is a professor at UIC (and a friend of Bill Ayers), on Christmas I'm pulling out the camera and how a guy with a PHD in physics reverts into a child over politics along with the other over dramatic progressives in my family.
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Sorry you don't like your uncle. This proves jack-**** about anything except your personal view of your uncle and family.

Mr.Nick said:
Not to mention you already proved my theory by treating me as hostile.
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What? You are the guy who came in here declaring, with no proof, a really stupid notion that me and other progressives create mass-shooters... You have absolutely no room to try and play the victim card.

Mr.Nick said:
Not to mention - there would be no damn study that would even study the fact that the progressive socioeconomic philosophy breeds crazies because the majority of those able to conduct "institutional" studies are PROGRESSIVES in the first place!
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Right. You go on the attack, then play the victim card followed by a conspiracy card because you can't proove your politically motivated ridiculous hypotheses of hate. You clearly do not want to be taken seriously.

Let me clue you in on something, Progressives did not foster the environment or raise kids to become mass shooters... conservatives did not foster the environment or raise kids to become mass shooters. You playing politics with the lives of people based on completely unfounded and wild political claims is beyond idiotic.

Get this through your skull Mr. Victim... I didn't claim nor do I claim that your political ideology makes mass shooters happen. However, you did claim that of me. So please, stop crying about being attacked and at least try to back up your ridiculous claims beyond "I can't because it's all a grand conspiracy" and "I really don't like my uncle."
 
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Mr.Nick said:
Then why the hell are you in this thread?

NO, you don't want to ban the Second Amendment - you just want to limit individuals to cap guns!

I would love to know how you interpret the Second Amendment. I'll guess - "hunt for food." :lol:
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If you want to know, read the thread your in instead of pulling conservative stereotypes of liberals out of your hind.
 
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poweRob said:
Sorry you don't like your uncle. This proves jack-**** about anything except your personal view of your uncle and family.



What? You are the guy who came in here declaring, with no proof, a really stupid notion that me and other progressives create mass-shooters... You have absolutely no room to try and play the victim card.



Right. You go on the attack, then play the victim card followed by a conspiracy card because you can't proove your politically motivated ridiculous hypotheses of hate. You clearly do not want to be taken seriously.

Let me clue you in on something, Progressives did not foster the environment or raise kids to become mass shooters... conservatives did not foster the environment or raise kids to become mass shooters. You playing politics with the lives of people based on completely unfounded and wild political claims is beyond idiotic.

Get this through your skull Mr. Victim... I didn't claim nor do I claim that your political ideology makes mass shooters happen. However, you did claim that of me.
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Oh I can prove it...

How many school shootings have happened since Columbine? how many before?

Now would you say society is more progressive today than it was when "evil white men" were running the show pre-1990 (or so).
 
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For all the noise that the left makes about gun control, I have still yet to see any substantially convincing evidence that gun control would actually WORK.

Until I start seeing some facts, this is all just hyperbole.
 
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CriticalThought said:
Given that a resource officer was of little help at Columbine High School, I'm not particularly impressed with your argument.
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A) the officer was outside
B) the officer actually did get a shot off - apparently he missed
C) I agree. There should be a minimum of two.


Meanwhile, given that Conneticut and Aurora's restrictive gun laws apparently weren't much help in deterring homicidal psychos, I'm not terribly impressed with the argument that the problem can be solved by disarming the sheepdogs. Nothing is going to be a panacea - but we keep armed responders in our Courthouses, major public buildings, and around the President 24/7 - because we recognize that that makes these things safer. It's time we made our children safer.

To the contrary it shows that you don't know how to read charts. You argued that "administrators" had grown when this chart indicates "non teaching staff" has grown.
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:doh Weak response. The vast majority of those positions are administrative - the growth in administrative positions is something that has been occurring across the board and at all levels of education.

Even in relatively small-government Texas the growth looks like this:

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Non-teaching staff is administrative. They are handling the administration of that school.

However, the point remains. We are hiring lots of folks whom we probably don't really need, but who don't have as their primary focus the education of children. Let us make some of those hirees veterans who are trained First Responders; and who in the mean time can assist in the library or whatever.
 
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poweRob said:
Sorry you don't like your uncle. This proves jack-**** about anything except your personal view of your uncle and family.


What? You are the guy who came in here declaring, with no proof, a really stupid notion that me and other progressives create mass-shooters... You have absolutely no room to try and play the victim card.


Right. You go on the attack, then play the victim card followed by a conspiracy card because you can't proove your politically motivated ridiculous hypotheses of hate. You clearly do not want to be taken seriously.

Let me clue you in on something, Progressives did not foster the environment or raise kids to become mass shooters... conservatives did not foster the environment or raise kids to become mass shooters. You playing politics with the lives of people based on completely unfounded and wild political claims is beyond idiotic.

Get this through your skull Mr. Victim... I didn't claim nor do I claim that your political ideology makes mass shooters happen. However, you did claim that of me. So please, stop crying about being attacked and at least try to back up your ridiculous claims beyond "I can't because it's all a grand conspiracy" and "I really don't like my uncle."
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See the part I bolded. Guess again.

Progressives are anti-religion in every way that they can be. Progressives embrace class envy. That one's own flaws are the fault of others, to be remedied by others.

Heck. Look at your posts as evidence.
 
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