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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I know but I never pass up a chance to edify the ignorant wherever they may be lurking

    its hard to have a free state when the people are disarmed-but you know that too

    carry on
    I don't recall reading anyone posting that "the people should be disarmed." Do you?
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by jakiejakester View Post
    I don't recall reading anyone posting that "the people should be disarmed." Do you?
    read some more Capster78 wants all guns banned
    several others won't say it but that's what they clearly want

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Swing and a miss. What good is our Constitution if it is "living and breathing", and obtw, doesn't really mean what it says ? Which would be to not have one ...

    You did get "I do not understand" correct.
    The SCOTUS was created to settle disputed interpretations of the Constitution. Do you really believe that the USA has a threat from it's government that would necessitate you taking up arms and fighting against it? Please answer this important question. I do not believe there's any chance at all that I will use guns against the US government - never ever and it won't happen.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that is funny coming from a poster whose main topic is based on fear and distrust of fellow citizens who legally own guns
    You're putting words in my mouth. I never wrote that I distrust citizens with guns. I wrote that I see no need to have such high powered weaponry and high quantity magazines and that having them has caused and will again cause more people to die than if they didn't exist. I've written this multiple times in this thread yet you accuse me of writing something that I never did and worse, you believe what you wrote over what I wrote about my beliefs.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post

    TO FIGHT CRIMINALS WHO HAVE ALL SORTS OF WEAPONS THEY GOT ILLEGALLY
    And as a private citizens how many times in your life have you had to "fight criminals who have all sorts of weapons"?
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by jakiejakester View Post
    You're putting words in my mouth. I never wrote that I distrust citizens with guns. I wrote that I see no need to have such high powered weaponry and high quantity magazines and that having them has caused and will again cause more people to die than if they didn't exist. I've written this multiple times in this thread yet you accuse me of writing something that I never did and worse, you believe what you wrote over what I wrote about my beliefs.
    well that is the obvious conclusion of your rants

    you don't trust honest people to own the same guns our public servants use to protect themselves from criminals.

    and I really have no use for someone who probably knows less about guns now than I did at age 8, telling me what I NEED or what millions of other people who are well skilled in the use of small arms need based on your fear of either us or your extrapolation of criminal intentional misuse of guns they cannot legally own to us

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by jakiejakester View Post
    And as a private citizens how many times in your life have you had to "fight criminals who have all sorts of weapons"?
    I shot a mugger.

    and you can ask the same question of cops-the vast majority of whom will never draw their weapon on a criminal

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    read some more Capster78 wants all guns banned
    several others won't say it but that's what they clearly want
    I did not read all 870+ plus postings but the way you wrote it is that many or most people who are pro gun control want what you wrote when in fact you can only name one person....that's not fair IMHO.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    well that is the obvious conclusion of your rants

    you don't trust honest people to own the same guns our public servants use to protect themselves from criminals.

    and I really have no use for someone who probably knows less about guns now than I did at age 8, telling me what I NEED or what millions of other people who are well skilled in the use of small arms need based on your fear of either us or your extrapolation of criminal intentional misuse of guns they cannot legally own to us
    Is it OK if you would post replies to my posts, which you freely choose to do without attacking me personally? My "rants" are my opinion and not rants. I always feel that the person that I'm debating is losing the debate when they have to resort to petty personal attacks. I see it as "I can't prove my point intellectually so instead I'll put you down and discredit you."

    You have a point of view that I severely disagree with but I do not think that I should attack your position as "moronic" or "rants" etc. You can always put me on your ignore list if my "rants" make you write so many angry words against me?
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    This would be a highly unenlightened comment.

    First: You raise the notion that the Second Amendment does not "suggest" .. blah . blah .. blah. Well, would you care to point out the words in the Constitution that go to the "seperation of Church and State", a favorite chorus of such as yourself ? It ain't there, is it !!! As most of us know, it is in a letter written by Jefferson well after the fact, but which libs seem to include as Constitutional gospel ! With that as the invite, let us look further at Jefferson.
    I have never claimed the words "seperation of church and state" was in the constitution. Nice straw man, but major fail.

    As others have already pointed out the short-sightedness of your assertion, namely that the right to bear arms shall not be infinged, let us also look at the words of the same Jefferson on this topic:

    You should quit before you fall further behind.
    Oddly, you have not even addressed my point, which was that Mr. Nick interpreted the Constitution instead of reading it literally. Why is this so difficult for you guys to comprehend? He is in fact being hypocritical in saying it should be read literally, while he is interpreting it when he chooses.
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