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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by jakiejakester View Post
    Can you show one case that was ruled the way you suggest that is valid today and wiped out gun registration laws?
    can you show me where federal registration was upheld and which case was it

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    and show me what language in the constitution delegated that power to the government

    I find many things the USSC has done since 1933 to be contrary to the constitution and many scholars agree with me

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by jakiejakester View Post
    The SCOTUS has ruled that the government has a RIGHT to legislate gun ownership within certain parameters - that's what SCOTUS does they rule on laws to determine if they are constitutional and their rulings can change over time. My point is that the SCOTUS has ruled that gun registration IS constitutional and therefore not in violation of the 2nd amendment.
    Just out of curiosity, what do you personally think that gun registration, in the US, consists of?
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    was that what the ruling was or was that dicta? where did they rule that gun registration was legal on a federal scale?
    Where did they not? In the recent DC case they ruled that a complete ban on handguns in DC was unconstitutional and in the same ruling it was determined that"

    "The court emphasized that it was not casting doubt on many kinds of gun regulations — including prohibitions on gun possession by felons and the mentally ill, laws keeping guns away from schools and government buildings and laws imposing restrictions like waiting periods on the sale of guns."
    Read more: Supreme Court: 2nd Amendment Supersedes Local Gun-Control Laws - TIME
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by jakiejakester View Post
    Where did they not? In the recent DC case they ruled that a complete ban on handguns in DC was unconstitutional and in the same ruling it was determined that"



    Read more: Supreme Court: 2nd Amendment Supersedes Local Gun-Control Laws - TIME
    that's called dicta-it was not a matter in controversy in the case

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and show me what language in the constitution delegated that power to the government

    I find many things the USSC has done since 1933 to be contrary to the constitution and many scholars agree with me
    Why the Straw Man argument? Fox News does the same thing when they say "Some are saying" but what "some say" or your use of "many scholars" is meaningless unless or until the SCOTUS rule otherwise. It would be like my saying that "many scholars believe that gun ownership under the 2nd Amendment is meant only for a militia not private citizens." Many "scholars" say that too but it doesn't make them right, does it? Nor does it make your "scholars" right who agree with you, does it?
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's called dicta-it was not a matter in controversy in the case
    Where has it been ruled illegal to require gun registration or waiting periods after applying to buy a gun? Why should be people be required to have a driver's license and take a written and driving test and to have car insurance yet not be required to have similar checks and balances to own a gun? Please do not tell me cars are deadlier than guns....
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Just out of curiosity, what do you personally think that gun registration, in the US, consists of?
    I think it varies state by state and since I've never contemplated owning a gun nor will I ever own a gun the exact details in my state, NY are not something I have great familiarity with.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by jakiejakester View Post
    Where has it been ruled illegal to require gun registration or waiting periods after applying to buy a gun? Why should be people be required to have a driver's license and take a written and driving test and to have car insurance yet not be required to have similar checks and balances to own a gun? Please do not tell me cars are deadlier than guns....

    remind me what amendment made the driving and operating a car a right recognized by the Constitution

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by jakiejakester View Post
    I think it varies state by state and since I've never contemplated owning a gun nor will I ever own a gun the exact details in my state, NY are not something I have great familiarity with.
    do you put signs on your door advertising your home is gun free?

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