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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Maybe true in some cases. the turd in CT croaked himself before the PO PO even appeared on scene. its too bad they kill themselves. I'd much rather have the family spend say about 6 hours with him and then all get pardons from the governor afterwards
    Was he running out of ammo or something?

    With Lanza, they say maybe he was angry about being committed. So I guess he knew he'd be committed if the police got to him...

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    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I would think so, because if they're wearing armor and commit suicide after trying to kill a bunch of people they never intended to survive the ordeal.
    true and what that means is any threat of punishment is irrelevant when dealing with these people since they won't be around to stand trial

    when someone has conceded he is already dead the only way you "deter" him is to kill him or badly hurt him before he can kill you or others

    that is something these anti gun nuts have never understood

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Was he running out of ammo or something?

    With Lanza, they say maybe he was angry about being committed. So I guess he knew he'd be committed if the police got to him...

    I guess that is what caused him to snap. too bad his mother didn't think about security for her weapons if she had someone who needed commitment around her.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I guess that is what caused him to snap. too bad his mother didn't think about security for her weapons if she had someone who needed commitment around her.
    She taught him how to use her weapons... If he needed to be committed and was anti social, he probably should have never been taught how to handle a weapon to begin with.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    true and what that means is any threat of punishment is irrelevant when dealing with these people since they won't be around to stand trial

    when someone has conceded he is already dead the only way you "deter" him is to kill him or badly hurt him before he can kill you or others

    that is something these anti gun nuts have never understood
    The amount of hell these people are probably already going thru in their minds is more punishment than must of us have ever experienced. The shame is if they're committed to the deed I wish they'd only take themselves out and not other innocents. But that's the problem with mental illness is that the criminally insane can usually hide it long enough before getting caught.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    I have never really seen a study on the mind of a mass shooter, or what the warning signs are. What kind of traits do these people have, etc.

    I would like to know such things, and I wonder if part of reason they usually commit suicide is for the power. The power in taking their own life and the lives of others, and the ultimate power being they will not allow another person to kill them and become a hero. They must get all of the attention and control their own end.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    She taught him how to use her weapons... If he needed to be committed and was anti social, he probably should have never been taught how to handle a weapon to begin with.
    probably true but I have studied active shooter cases where the killer had almost no real firearms experience but having played interactive games was actually competent enough to get high hit ratios on live targets

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    She taught him how to use her weapons... If he needed to be committed and was anti social, he probably should have never been taught how to handle a weapon to begin with.
    Exactly, it was a symphony of errors in judgment. He needed far more professional help than he was getting. He should never had any access to her guns in any form. But the weapons were never the issue, since he was apparently smart enough to have built a bomb that could've killed far more people.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Exactly, it was a symphony of errors in judgment. He needed far more professional help than he was getting. He should never had any access to her guns in any form. But the weapons were never the issue, since he was apparently smart enough to have built a bomb that could've killed far more people.
    His mom was a dooms day prepper. Sometimes gun enthusiasts can be the problem. I used to talk to a girl that once put an automatic rifle her in baby's crib and took a picture, as if it were cute or something. There is a difference between respecting weapons and loving them.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    His mom was a dooms day prepper. Sometimes gun enthusiasts can be the problem. I used to talk to a girl that once put an automatic rifle her in baby's crib and took a picture, as if it were cute or something. There is a difference between respecting weapons and loving them.
    It's been my experience that people who love guns actually respect them the most and preach safety. It's the people who get either unhealthily obsessed, act callously or use poor judgment that create most the problems. Some preppers who allow access to their arsenal by family members and friends that aren't mentally/emotionally capable of using common sense aren't practicing mature or responsible behavior. Mistakes of this caliber can cost lives and serious injury but it's part of life and growing.
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