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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    You were the one who inserted Assam into the discussion. I only made a curtsy search as I was unaware of the incident and you provided no source. I guess I must research your points also... I have argued that based on photos, the Tactical Gear invoice AND the Blackhawk product description Holmes was NOT wearing body armor as you asserted and was reported. One cannot argue that 'body armor and vests make a kill shot more difficult in a mass shooting' when the shooter is NOT WEARING IT!
    And I posted a link showing you're claim she killed him was wrong... she initially believed she did, but the autopsy indicated he killed himself.

    I am also not certain how you can argue body armor doesn't make a kill shot more difficult... even TD agrees with me. As for Holmes, there appears to be a debate on what he was and wasn't wearing. Again, that debate probably won't be put away until the trial.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

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    And I posted a link showing you're claim she killed him was wrong... she initially believed she did, but the autopsy indicated he killed himself.

    I am also not certain how you can argue body armor doesn't make a kill shot more difficult... even TD agrees with me. As for Holmes, there appears to be a debate on what he was and wasn't wearing. Again, that debate probably won't be put away until the trial.
    we also know (me especially since I constantly train with John Benner who is a leading national authority on active shooters and trains response teams how to deal with them) that 90% of the active shooters, when even confronted with responses, folded up and croaked themselves. The loser in CT did a barrellobotomy the minute he heard the PO PO was coming. I wonder why these people sometimes have used body armor when they aren't really willing to fight

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    And I posted a link showing you're claim she killed him was wrong... she initially believed she did, but the autopsy indicated he killed himself.
    thx, check my edit...

    I am also not certain how you can argue body armor doesn't make a kill shot more difficult... even TD agrees with me. As for Holmes, there appears to be a debate on what he was and wasn't wearing. Again, that debate probably won't be put away until the trial.
    Sorry, but did I not argue the same in #664?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    we also know (me especially since I constantly train with John Benner who is a leading national authority on active shooters and trains response teams how to deal with them) that 90% of the active shooters, when even confronted with responses, folded up and croaked themselves. The loser in CT did a barrellobotomy the minute he heard the PO PO was coming. I wonder why these people sometimes have used body armor when they aren't really willing to fight
    Holmes is still alive, which is the extremely shocking to most people.

    Perhaps they wear it because it gives them a feeling of power or something...

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    we also know (me especially since I constantly train with John Benner who is a leading national authority on active shooters and trains response teams how to deal with them) that 90% of the active shooters, when even confronted with responses, folded up and croaked themselves. The loser in CT did a barrellobotomy the minute he heard the PO PO was coming. I wonder why these people sometimes have used body armor when they aren't really willing to fight
    They want to fight and kill as many as possible but they don't usually want to risk being caught. The two LA bank robbers were armed and armored up to the hilt but were also homicidal maniacs with no intention of serving time. When you hate life, you hate all of life, especially your own.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Holmes is still alive, which is the extremely shocking to most people.

    Perhaps they wear it because it gives them a feeling of power or something...
    Or perhaps they are role playing something they saw on TV or a video game...?
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    They want to fight and kill as many as possible but they don't usually want to risk being caught. The two LA bank robbers were armed and armored up to the hilt but were also homicidal maniacs with no intention of serving time. When you hate life, you hate all of life, especially your own.
    So the armor is there to possibly prolong the killing if necessary, in case the PO PO arrives sooner than expected...

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    So the armor is there to possibly prolong the killing if necessary, in case the PO PO arrives sooner than expected...

    Maybe true in some cases. the turd in CT croaked himself before the PO PO even appeared on scene. its too bad they kill themselves. I'd much rather have the family spend say about 6 hours with him and then all get pardons from the governor afterwards

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    So the armor is there to possibly prolong the killing if necessary, in case the PO PO arrives sooner than expected...
    I would think so, because if they're wearing armor and commit suicide after trying to kill a bunch of people they never intended to survive the ordeal.
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