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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    An AR15 is not even an assault rifle, and it doesn't matter if I "need" one or not. Just the fact that I want one, and am willing to buy it, will suffice as all the justification I (or anyone else) need.
    Really? So if you wanted a bigger weapon of mass destruction that's OK in your world too? Afterall you have the right to protect yourself and if a rocket launcher is needed you should have the right to own it too, right?

    Do you have some type of incredible fear that you're being threatened all the time and that only if you carry gun(s) you will be safe?

    I don't get how so many people in this community are so afraid of being threatened? I can't relate to your fears....sorry.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Depending on what the job is, a handgun will get it done, depending on distance and numbers. That really doesn't matter though, when the discussion of gun ownership comes up. We don't have a 2nd amendment dependent on need, but dependent on the right to own and bear.
    The SCOTUS ruling recently said that communities have the right to ban certain types of weapons that the 2nd Amendment does not guarantee carte blanche to own any type of gun. What are you so afraid of exactly?
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by jakiejakester View Post
    Really? So if you wanted a bigger weapon of mass destruction that's OK in your world too? Afterall you have the right to protect yourself and if a rocket launcher is needed you should have the right to own it too, right?

    Do you have some type of incredible fear that you're being threatened all the time and that only if you carry gun(s) you will be safe?

    I don't get how so many people in this community are so afraid of being threatened? I can't relate to your fears....sorry.
    I'm guessing you have reading comprehension problems. Nowhere, did I say anything about being afraid or WMD. I simply stated that all I need is the desire and money to own one. It doesn't matter if I need it or not. I like guns. I like target shooting, and if I want an AR15, it doesn't matter if I need it or not. That's not what the second amendment is about.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I'm guessing you have reading comprehension problems. Nowhere, did I say anything about being afraid or WMD. I simply stated that all I need is the desire and money to own one. It doesn't matter if I need it or not. I like guns. I like target shooting, and if I want an AR15, it doesn't matter if I need it or not. That's not what the second amendment is about.
    Thank you for the Civics lesson but your logic confirmed what I wrote. You're saying that your 2nd Amendment rights allow you to own an AR 15, which for now is true. But your also saying that you can also own larger weapons if that's what's needed to defend yourself? What sport is there, exactly, please, in an AR 15 or other guns that are similar? Target shooting with semi automatic? It's like looking at the answers to a crossword puzzle as you're doing it....
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by jakiejakester View Post
    Thank you for the Civics lesson but your logic confirmed what I wrote. You're saying that your 2nd Amendment rights allow you to own an AR 15, which for now is true. But your also saying that you can also own larger weapons if that's what's needed to defend yourself? What sport is there, exactly, please, in an AR 15 or other guns that are similar? Target shooting with semi automatic? It's like looking at the answers to a crossword puzzle as you're doing it....
    No, you are apparently still having comprehension problems. It's a very simple concept. I want an AR15, I have the money to buy one, I can own one. I can use it for any legal means, regardless of your assumption that I need it.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by TaraAnne View Post
    Some people seem to thing a hand gun will get the job done! Insert rolleyes
    when faced with a predator armed with an AR... who do you think will fare better... an unarmed person, or a person armed with a handgun?

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    So what, you think we should have 11 armed guards at every school, university, shopping mall, movie cinema, post office, etc? Eventually well need those armed guards patrolling the streets then. I don't get how this is a solution.
    Don't be absurd ! But if all the politicians can have armed guards for themselves and their kids, instead of a new law, then maybe they are onto something, dontcha think ? Have you seen the explosion of school administration in the past 20 years ? Graphs are in this thread ! Too bad it wasn't "for the children", eh ?

    Now that we want it to be "for the children", the libs are all freaking out !! Why is that ?

    I don't get how this is a solution
    Yeah. No ****.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    An elderly vet was able to tackle the shooter in Arizona because he had to stop killing to change magazines.
    I thought vets were untrustworthy?

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by jakiejakester View Post
    You know I've lived in Manhattan more than 40 of my 50 or so years and not one time have I ever found myself in a position to need the use of a gun no less an AR 15 type weapon. You know, big bad NYC with all that "violence"? When in your life had you ever had the need to use a semi-automatic rifle? Do you live somewhere in America that civilians are not safe unless they carry AR type guns? It must suck to live in that sort of place.
    Actually, I spent 7 years in the Military, where we are trained to confront the bad guys, as that is expected. So we use guns to do that. Follow me so far ?

    Now, your argument seems to be that I will no longer ever confront bad guys again, so why be armed ? Heck, you haven't been so confronted in 40 years in NYC, so why worry, eh ?

    Are you going to now tell me, and others, that there have been no good folks killed by the guns of bad folks in NYC in your 40 years ? You wanna bet that the murder-by-gun rate in NYC is worse than in my Florida County ? Even though you have not been shot at, or in a situation where a handgun was used to take from you ?

    Sucks to be you. In more ways than you know.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Don't be absurd ! But if all the politicians can have armed guards for themselves and their kids, instead of a new law, then maybe they are onto something, dontcha think ? Have you seen the explosion of school administration in the past 20 years ? Graphs are in this thread ! Too bad it wasn't "for the children", eh ?

    Now that we want it to be "for the children", the libs are all freaking out !! Why is that ?



    Yeah. No ****.
    It's absurd that the NRA is only responding because these were very small, little children. When it was a movie cinema and high schools, I guess the kids weren't young enough... the carnage wasn't bad enough. Why is the NRA only talking about protecting our children, and not about protecting everybody at cinemas and shopping malls as well?

    Is it because they don't have any solutions to offer?

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