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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I don't think the private sellers are going to be so lucky this time:

    Private Gun Sale Loophole Creates Invisible Firearms Market, Prompts Calls For Reform

    "More than three-quarters of states have no laws requiring background checks or documentation during private party sales, increasing the risk of weapons falling into the hands of convicted felons, juveniles or those who are mentally ill. As lawmakers in Washington examine gun control measures in the wake of last week's school massacre in Connecticut, many advocates and researchers are pushing to extend federal regulations requiring background checks and registrations to private gun sales.
    "Fixing this would be one of the single most important things we could do to address overall gun violence," said David Kennedy, director of the Center for Crime Prevention and Control at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York. "A lot of people don't understand that this is the way the world works. It means that people who everybody agrees shouldn't get guns have little trouble getting guns."
    Private Gun Sale Loophole Creates Invisible Firearms Market, Prompts Calls For Reform
    So, what's this going to do?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I don't think the private sellers are going to be so lucky this time:

    Private Gun Sale Loophole Creates Invisible Firearms Market, Prompts Calls For Reform

    "More than three-quarters of states have no laws requiring background checks or documentation during private party sales, increasing the risk of weapons falling into the hands of convicted felons, juveniles or those who are mentally ill. As lawmakers in Washington examine gun control measures in the wake of last week's school massacre in Connecticut, many advocates and researchers are pushing to extend federal regulations requiring background checks and registrations to private gun sales.
    "Fixing this would be one of the single most important things we could do to address overall gun violence," said David Kennedy, director of the Center for Crime Prevention and Control at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York. "A lot of people don't understand that this is the way the world works. It means that people who everybody agrees shouldn't get guns have little trouble getting guns."
    Private Gun Sale Loophole Creates Invisible Firearms Market, Prompts Calls For Reform
    yeah its going to be just as effective as banning 'private sales' of narcotics.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, what's this going to do?
    be ignored by most of the people who are a problem right now

    and then the hysterics will claim we need complete gun registration and un-announced inspections of what you own to prevent people from selling stuff they have owned for years to other people

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    be ignored by most of the people who are a problem right now

    and then the hysterics will claim we need complete gun registration and un-announced inspections of what you own to prevent people from selling stuff they have owned for years to other people
    The anti-gunners want nothing less than to make gun ownership too expensive for the common folk.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yeah its going to be just as effective as banning 'private sales' of narcotics.
    And taxing tobacco products and alcohol.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, what's this going to do?
    Its going to make it a little harder for criminals and crazies to buy guns.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yeah its going to be just as effective as banning 'private sales' of narcotics.
    We'll see. There is nothing to lose by trying!
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Its going to make it a little harder for criminals and crazies to buy guns.
    That's what we've heard about all these other laws that have been passed: background checks, gun-free zones, etc.

    How well has that worked out? Have we had more, or fewer mass shootings since the inaction of these laws?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We'll see. There is nothing to lose by trying!
    Except our rights, but screw that. Huh?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We'll see. There is nothing to lose by trying!
    that would be like some bible thumper saying we ought to try getting rid of aids by banning gay sex

    to them there is nothing to lose by trying

    Of course to someone like you, constitutional rights mean nothing when those rights are ones that conservatives advocate.

    I guess the next time you engage in one of your "look at me" protests I should tell the police to open fire=it might stop a riot and again I lose nothing for them trying to do that

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