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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by jakiejakester View Post
    With all due respect your argument is totally a straw man. No one is suggesting that ALL guns be banned but what most Americans feel is that we do not need AR 15 type semi automatic weapons of mass destruction nor do we need magazines that hold 30 rounds. Getting rid of them will REDUCE mass murders but not stop them. It will, in no way whatsoever INCREASE gun murders if they're removed forever from this planet and that is the point.

    The evil LePierre wants to spend BILLIONS more on his "solution" but if you ask him and the other NRA'ers if there should be a new tax to pay for it they'll revolt against the tax!
    Moronic comment alert. if my tax dollars supply such weapons to civilian police officers for use against criminals in an urban environment, those same weapons are just as useful for me to have for self defense.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Sorry you didn't understand that I abbreviated assault weapon as AW. Automatic weapons are already banned.
    What a joke. As compared to what, "non-assault" Glocks ?

    The last "assault weapon" ban didn't do $hit.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Give me a break, there is nothing to read. Over 4000 FPS and the bullet tumbles and breaks into pieces tearing your insides into hamburger. Maybe you think we should sell cyanide tipped bullets too?

    Bob Tuley
    more lies, the 5.56 NATO round never comes near 4000 FPS and the current 62 grain SS109 and the other similar round does not even break 3200 FPS

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    AW and Hi cap mags do create higher rates of violence by pussies, who would not be man enough to massacre large numbers of people without AW and hi cap mags, as happens in the US.
    the idiotic posts just keep on coming. no proof but it demonstrates what really motivates the swill Catawba spews. HE just hates gun owners. They didn't support his peacenik jihad against America's armed forces

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    What a joke. As compared to what, "non-assault" Glocks ?

    The last "assault weapon" ban didn't do $hit.
    It wasn't in place long enough to have much effect.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by TaraAnne View Post
    Tell me why America should be held hostage by 4 million members of a rightwing group while the rest of the 296 million get to watch children get shot.
    another bit of extremist psychobabble. The NRA campaigns for the constitutional rights of everyone. not just its members. you assume that your idiotic desires for gun bans are going to make people safer-how many LEGAL guns are used in all those murders in Chicago?

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It wasn't in place long enough to have much effect.
    Like Prohibition, right ?

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by TaraAnne View Post
    Tell me why America should be held hostage by 4 million members of a rightwing group while the rest of the 296 million get to watch children get shot.
    Actually it is way less than 4 million. Most members of the NRA do not oppose background checks for all sales or banning Assault weapons or large mags. The NRA speaks for gun manufacturers and to them every sale is a good sale. 25% of gun manufacturers sales are to criminals so you know where they stand.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It wasn't in place long enough to have much effect.
    And it had no teeth anyway. Existing weapons were allowed to continue to be sold instead of buying them back and making possesion illegal. We need to stop selling the .223 bullets they use too.

    To guarantee that there would never be another Tucson or Sandy Hook, we would probably have to make it a capital offense to so much as look at a gun. And that would create serious 2nd Amendment, 8th Amendment and logistical problems.

    So what's the alternative? Bring back the assault weapons ban, and bring it back with some teeth this time. Ban the manufacture, importation, sale, transfer and possession of both assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. Don't let people who already have them keep them. Don't let ones that have already been manufactured stay on the market. I don't care whether it's called gun control or a gun ban. I'm for it.

    I say all of this as a gun owner. I say it as a conservative who was appointed to the federal bench by a Republican president. I say it as someone who prefers Fox News to MSNBC, and National Review Online to the Daily Kos. I say it as someone who thinks the Supreme Court got it right in District of Columbia vs. Heller, when it held that the 2nd Amendment gives us the right to possess guns for self-defense. (That's why I have mine.) I say it as someone who, generally speaking, is not a big fan of the regulatory state.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    ...she had to change the tune... the comparable numbers were not looking good for her ( abortions V gun deaths)
    The point was about taxing abortions. My tounge in cheek comment was made about taxing guns. Seems you are trying to bring anothe discussion into play because you have no defence.

    So here goes 10.8 million guns sold in the USA in 2011. There were 1.2 million abortions in 2011 your arguement hold no water and delusional at best trying to play that card. So I have a question for you would you give up your rights to bear arms to make abortion illegal? I cannot wait to see the total dodge on this!

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