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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I believe they got their main weapon from the illegal practice known as a straw purchase from another individual which is not stopped by a background check
    That is true. The guns were purchased at a gun show from a dealer that kept no records and did not remember the transaction.... so, yes, there was a surrogate... so, I will wander into some area of speculation (as I generally like to deal in facts that I can support), but I find it pretty hard to believe that a surrogate performs in a place where they are part of the audit trail. In the Columbine case, there was not audit trail... again, to some extent, because the transient nature of a gun show is less formal than that of a fixed store where cash registers must tie and ledgers have to agree to the cash register.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    ... not at 17....
    Thank you for illustrating my point.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by jakiejakester View Post
    I don't think High School kids can legally buy guns, do you?
    So, all the laws and background checks failed. Yes?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by jakiejakester View Post
    So you want everyone to have a the choice to buy guns but not the choice
    to buy an abortion?
    Youv'e misunderstood my analogy.

    The poster that was meant for suggested to "tax the crap" out of gun owners as a really dumb way to make herself feel more secure.


    Buying and owning guns is constitutional and unfortunately so is stopping abhuman beating heart as long it's still in the protective womb of its mother.

    I just suggested if you REALLY want to save innocent lives "tax the crap" out of abortions.

    Random gun violence is nothing compared to the children that are killed by way of abortion every year.

    I guess they need to be named for anyone to give a damn.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    you were provide a ballistics chart and ample time to read it..... why do remain ignorant on the matter?
    Give me a break, there is nothing to read. Over 4000 FPS and the bullet tumbles and breaks into pieces tearing your insides into hamburger. Maybe you think we should sell cyanide tipped bullets too?

    The 5.56 NATO (.233) is the work horse of the American Military, as well as the armies of many other countries, being the cartridge used in the M-16 Rifle, first adopted during the VietnamWar and now used in the weapons of many other countries.
    For a little bullet, the 5.56 bullet produces quite dramatic wounds. While the traditional 30-06 caliber bullet of the M1 Garand and 7.62 bullet of the M14 rifle would immediately knock a man down, the 5.56 bullet instead enters the body, quickly turns sideways after passing through only 4" of flesh, then breaks in two major pieces, as well as many smaller fragments. During the Vietnam War, soldiers reported that shooting an enemy soldier with the M16 did not kill as quickly as the old 30 caliber weapons. Instead soldiers would follow a massive trail a blood a few feet away from where the enemy soldier had been hit to find him dead from massive blood loss. This light-weight cartridge permits soldiers to carry more ammo, but is not as effective at long distances as heavier cartridges and does not penetrate steel as well. The low recoil permits quick follow-up shots and minimal muzzle climb during automatic fire.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Columbine kids couldnt pass a background check?
    They were underage. A girl they knew bought the guns for them. She even told the salesman they weren't for her but he didn't care.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    For those of us aware of how laws get passed, public support is very important.
    Obamacare says you could not be more wrong, cause not only was it unpopular, but "we have to pass the bill to see what's in it".

    You have confimed over-and-over the poster's assertion that you post things willy-nilly.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The country is more concerned now with the needless slaughter of innocent people than they are with people only being injured.
    Murder is the same. Guns are not behind higher rates of violence in the US.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    They were underage. A girl they knew bought the guns for them. She even told the salesman they weren't for her but he didn't care.
    But, but, that's impossible! I have it on very good authority that restrictions on gun purchases keep them out of the hands of those for whom the restrictions are intended!

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Thank you for illustrating my point.
    ...we get a two fer as it also illustrated my point: the workaround was too easy. Tightening the gun show loophole would have made this much more difficult. Of course, you are not going to ever stop the highly determined, you can build enough barriers to frustrate all and deter the lesser determined. For the record, I do not believe any gun laws will stop gun violence; but the right legislation could reduce it.

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