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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Just like our drug laws have made it difficult for the bad guys to get drugs?
    Drug manufacturing is nigh impossible to figure. Gun manufacturing however...
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Just like our drug laws have made it difficult for the bad guys to get drugs?
    You think if there were no drug laws the problem would be less?
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Drug laws mostly don't work. However, gun control laws do seem to.
    I don't even know how to respond to that.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Drug laws mostly don't work. However, gun control laws do seem to.
    I would correct that to "can work" in some places, and they do have a cost in terms of limiting freedoms.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Just like our drug laws have made it difficult for the bad guys to get drugs?
    Certainly more difficult than without drug laws, yes.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Drug laws mostly don't work. However, gun control laws do seem to.
    Indeed...especially in Chicago.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Perhaps.

    And yet: How to Build an Incendiary Bomb More Powerful Than Napalm

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    Took me two seconds...
    Well there is your alternative for personal defense if they ban assault weapons and high capacity mags! Congrats!
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Perhaps.

    And yet: How to Build an Incendiary Bomb More Powerful Than Napalm

    How to Build an Incendiary Bomb More Powerful Than Napalm - Softpedia

    Took me two seconds...
    It's never going to go away... no one is agruing that. But still a lot more work and a lot more effort and time to pull it together is more time to stop it.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Other countries have all of those things. Other countries also have far stricter gun laws... and you know what? Gun deaths go down. Despite the fact that the "good guys" don't have guns.
    The "good guy" argument that gun enthusiasts doesn't really work for mass shootings, in particular. The vast majority of mass shooters acquire their weapons legally. Gun enthusiasts tend to respond to this by saying, "Bad guys are going to find a way to get guns legally or illegally because they just want to hurt people." I don't find that argument convincing. It's entirely possible that many of these mass shooters go through with their plans, in part, because guns are legally and, in turn, easily accessible to them. A lot of these men have no connections to criminals and thus, would find it difficult to get into the illegal gun trade. Moreover, buying guns illegally risks getting caught before having a chance to go through with the planned attack which I suspect mass shooters would like to avoid.

    I just find the whole idea that gun control can't do anything because "bad people will find guns anyway" and "all it does it hurt the good guys" to be incredibly unconvincing.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by hfd View Post
    That statement is hard to justify while listening to the news. Perhaps we should again ban alcohol or cars. After all drunk drivers kill people. Smoking kills people. Should we ban cigs? Diabetes kills over 68,000. Should we ban sugar and carbs?
    If you go any further off the rails you'll kill someone with this train-wreck of an argument.
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