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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    I didn't even read an article......

    I only thought about it because I was looking in to buying a Mini 14 for quite a while.
    Cool. Both rifles above have the exact same specifications from mag size, rate of fire, velocity, and caliber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Cool. Both rifles above have the exact same specifications from mag size, rate of fire, velocity, and caliber.
    The Mini-14 Mags are made of a heavier but stronger material (at least the ones from Ruger), but the barrel isn't as thick, which causes the Mini-14 to lose accuracy after several repeat shots of fire. But we are talking an inch or so at over a hundred yards...... not significant enough to make a difference in some freak's mass shooting episode.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post



    Which one of these weapons should be banned as an assault rifle?
    Which ever gun uses the incredibly fast and incredibly destructive .223 ammo. That ammo allong with all guns that use it need to be banned.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    IMO, we have a "recipe" for the mass shootings that occur in this country (unlike Canada) that makes sense. The movies, the video games, the drugging of our children, untreated mental illness, the absence of fathers in our homes, our 50% divorce rate, children being raised by TV sets and computers being some. If I thought harder, I could come up with more.
    I agree with the formula above PLUS (or the more, as you put it) to include the availability of guns designed to kill multiple humans..... The problem is complex; as is the solution. Those that think it is only the guns are as clueless as those that think the guns are blameless.

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    If we ban guns in this country, only the bad guys will have guns. I'm not comfortable with that. I wonder why no one goes berserk at gun shows. I'm just sayin'...
    nice cliche. These little slogans always sound so cute, but they trivialize the issue (which they are designed to do) and thus are the domain of the shallow. The fact is that no one is suggesting banning guns... most are suggesting making guns harder to obtain or maybe banning certain types of firearms (or extended clips), the banning of which will not compromise 2nd Amendment rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    The headline might read like this: "Man goes berserk at gu. Never mind."
    Remember the Columbine kids obtained their guns through a Denver gun show. If that loophole had been closed, their feat would have been a bit more difficult (not impossible by any means) to pull off.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Which ever gun uses the incredibly fast and incredibly destructive .223 ammo. That ammo allong with all guns that use it need to be banned.
    Your kidding right?
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

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    Remember the Columbine kids obtained their guns through a Denver gun show. If that loophole had been closed, their feat would have been a bit more difficult (not impossible by any means) to pull off.
    I actually don't care much that they obtained their guns through a Denver gun show. I think gun shows need to be regulated. These gun sellers are in business to sell guns. The fact that they don't have brick-and-mortar stores is immaterial. They should be treated absolutely no differently than the gun shop on the corner. I think it's a disgrace, actually.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I actually don't care much that they obtained their guns through a Denver gun show. I think gun shows need to be regulated. These gun sellers are in business to sell guns. The fact that they don't have brick-and-mortar stores is immaterial. They should be treated absolutely no differently than the gun shop on the corner. I think it's a disgrace, actually.
    Sounds like the rest of the world needs to get a grip on their gun shows.

    I've never been to a gun show here that didn't have a background screening process, and a requirement for one to possess a pistol purchase permit before buying a handgun.



    Of course..... people could just be repeating lies they have heard on TV without any first hand knowledge of the topic....
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Sounds like the rest of the world needs to get a grip on their gun shows.

    I've never been to a gun show here that didn't have a background screening process, and a requirement for one to possess a pistol purchase permit before buying a handgun.

    Of course..... people could just be repeating lies they have heard on TV without any first hand knowledge of the topic....
    Can they purchase any other gun without a permit? Can they purchase AK47's without permits? (IOW, you said they needed a permit for handguns...for all of them?) In what state are they required to possess a permit? I don't know the answers. I'd really like to know because I thought anyone could go to a gun show and buy a gun.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Which ever gun uses the incredibly fast and incredible destructive .223 ammo. That ammo allong with all guns that use it need to be banned.
    you were provide a ballistics chart and ample time to read it..... why do remain ignorant on the matter?

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Sounds like the rest of the world needs to get a grip on their gun shows.

    I've never been to a gun show here that didn't have a background screening process, and a requirement for one to possess a pistol purchase permit before buying a handgun.



    Of course..... people could just be repeating lies they have heard on TV without any first hand knowledge of the topic....
    To date, the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) has prevented nearly 1.8 million criminals and other prohibited purchasers from buying guns. The law also has a deterrent effect—prohibited purchasers are less likely to try to buy guns when they know comprehensive background check requirements are in place.

    Unfortunately, current federal law requires criminal background checks only for guns sold through licensed firearm dealers, which account for just 60% of all gun sales in the United States. A loophole in the law allows individuals not “engaged in the business” of selling firearms to sell guns without a license—and without processing any paperwork. That means that two out of every five guns sold in the United States change hands without a background check.

    Though commonly referred to as the “Gun Show Loophole,” the “private sales” described above include guns sold at gun shows, through classified newspaper ads, the Internet, and between individuals virtually anywhere.

    Unfortunately, only six states (CA, CO, IL, NY, OR, RI) require universal background checks on all firearm sales at gun shows. Three more states (CT, MD, PA) require background checks on all handgun sales made at gun shows. Seven other states (HI, IA, MA, MI, NJ, NC, NE) require purchasers to obtain a permit and undergo a background check before buying a handgun. Florida allows its counties to regulate gun shows by requiring background checks on all firearms purchases at these events. 33 states have taken no action whatsoever to close the Gun Show Loophole.
    Perhaps it's not me...just sayin'.
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