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    Re: NRA Newtown response

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    Other countries have all of those things.
    Canada's divorce rate is just about half what ours is in the United States. Don't just say other countries have all those things. How many of their children are on Prozac and other mind-altering drugs? How many single-parent households do they have? Do their cable channels have the kinds of horrific vio-porn we have here in the U.S.? I don't know. Do you? Criminal Minds (a network show) regularly has shows depicting serial killers as if they are everywhere. Canada? I don't know. Do you?
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

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    IMO, we have a "recipe" for the mass shootings that occur in this country (unlike Canada) that makes sense. The movies, the video games, the drugging of our children, untreated mental illness, the absence of fathers in our homes, our 50% divorce rate, children being raised by TV sets and computers being some. If I thought harder, I could come up with more.

    If we ban guns in this country, only the bad guys will have guns. I'm not comfortable with that. I wonder why no one goes berserk at gun shows. I'm just sayin'...

    The headline might read like this: "Man goes berserk at gu. Never mind."
    I don't think anybody is looking to ban guns. But the big difference between the US and all other countries and the NRA and it's powerful lobby. Simple gun control laws will not stop gun violence, but it will certainly make it difficult for the bad guys to get guns and ammo.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

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    NRA Newtown response: National program to place armed security in schools

    LaPierre in part blamed mass shootings on "vicious, violent video games" such as "Bulletstorm," "Grand Theft Auto," Mortal Kombat" and "Splatterhouse." He also reached back in time to place blame on movies like "American Psycho" and "Natural Born Killers" for portraying "life as a joke and murder as a way of life."

    He went on to say that congress should put armed officers in every school in America. Who'd a thunk that a lobby for gun manufacturing comes up with the solution that we need to sell more guns? What a shocker.

    Anywhoo... I find it interesting that he chose to put a stupidity rift on this issue between his lobbying for the gun manufacturing industry and the video game, movie and music industries. He made it appear as "Guns? it's not gu.... LOOK OVER THERE!"
    This is why the NRA and fellow gun enthusiasts are not to be taken seriously. The main M.O. of these groups and individuals is take guns out of the discourse about violence and to insult people into staying silent or agreeing with them. Any group that doesn't even want to talk about the part of guns in gun violence is concerned only about their agenda and not about safety. Moreover, the hypocritical way this dude blames entertainment when he dismisses the idea that guns are the problem is laughably sickening.

    Look, I don't think guns are the main problem. I think mental health is the main problem. Plenty of people use guns (just as the play violent video games and watch violent movies) without shooting up public places. The most common denominator for shootings is obviously based in mental health and oftentimes delusional perceptions of reality. But when the NRA and gun enthusiasts try to take the weapon they hold dear out of the conversation surrounding violence, it just makes me focus my attention more closely on it and makes it even more difficult to take their opinions seriously.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I don't think anybody is looking to ban guns. But the big difference between the US and all other countries and the NRA and it's powerful lobby. Simple gun control laws will not stop gun violence, but it will certainly make it difficult for the bad guys to get guns and ammo.
    Just like our drug laws have made it difficult for the bad guys to get drugs?
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Canada's divorce rate is just about half what ours is in the United States. Don't just say other countries have all those things. How many of their children are on Prozac and other mind-altering drugs? How many single-parent households do they have? Do their cable channels have the kinds of horrific vio-porn we have here in the U.S.? I don't know. Do you? Criminal Minds (a network show) regularly has shows depicting serial killers as if they are everywhere. Canada? I don't know. Do you?
    We are pretty much the same, Maggie. Though I will say that our poor are not as poor.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    IMO, we have a "recipe" for the mass shootings that occur in this country (unlike Canada) that makes sense. The movies, the video games, the drugging of our children, untreated mental illness, the absence of fathers in our homes, our 50% divorce rate, children being raised by TV sets and computers being some. If I thought harder, I could come up with more.

    If we ban guns in this country, only the bad guys will have guns. I'm not comfortable with that. I wonder why no one goes berserk at gun shows. I'm just sayin'...

    The headline might read like this: "Man goes berserk at gu. Never mind."
    Man did go beserk at Fort Hood.

    There is no one thing that contributes to the whole of such an incident. I'll agree with you on that. But IMO, the people who do such crap are the biggest pansies ever. Had they had to do it by machette or such and get close to their victims, more likely than not, they wouldn't have done it. It's the ease of killing and the ease of death that makes something that would be difficult mentally and physically hard much more plausible in their heads.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    It's abundantly clear that no one actually want's to talk about gun violence.
    That statement is hard to justify while listening to the news. Perhaps we should again ban alcohol or cars. After all drunk drivers kill people. Smoking kills people. Should we ban cigs? Diabetes kills over 68,000. Should we ban sugar and carbs?

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Man did go beserk at Fort Hood.

    There is no one thing that contributes to the whole of such an incident. I'll agree with you on that. But IMO, the people who do such crap are the biggest pansies ever. Had they had to do it by machette or such and get close to their victims, more likely than not, they wouldn't have done it. It's the ease of killing and the ease of death that makes something that would be difficult mentally and physically hard much more plausible in their heads.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Just like our drug laws have made it difficult for the bad guys to get drugs?
    Drug laws mostly don't work. However, gun control laws do seem to.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Fortunately, we don't need the NRA or anyone else to tell us that violence begets violence. Yes. Violence in video games desensitizes young uncooked minds. There is no question in my mind. Do all young people who play these games by the hour/day/week/year turn into killers? Of course not. Just as all people who have access to guns don't become mass murderers.

    You forgot to mention one of the games: Kindergarten Killers. It's been around for ten year. Cute, huh?

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    Or perhaps you'd like to play: Super Columbine Massacre?

    Put these games together with movies like Hostel's I, II and III, sicko porn-violence movies of a similiar ilk available on our cable tv stations, and you've got an ample buffet on which sick minds can feed.

    We are a sick society.
    Japan has a large industry making rape based games and videos and books. In the US, almost no such industry exists. However, in 2008, the rate of rapes per 100k people in the US was 29.5. Japan 1.3. The correlation between violent crimes and games and videos is weak at best.
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