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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    No, you don't get it. You are not saving anyone. you are not a hero. You are not protecting the world. The reality is that if gunshots started around you and you had an obvious assault rifle you would be dead. Why? because anyone with even the most smallest of brain shoots the armed man first. yeah, you are there with your assault rifle and all that makes you is a gigantic target. If you do survive the police will have trouble telling you from the actual shooter and you will just confuse the situation. That is reality. You need to stop living in the movies. From your perception the gunfire starts and while you are trying to figure out whether or not the shooting is over or still a threat and where to go the killer is moving on and will eventually see you. You don't know what is going on, and you are clearly a scared rabbit ready to twitch fire and frankly I would much rather you not fire. I don't trust your reasoning or abilities. I know you are far more likely to be a danger to the people around you and an interference to law enforcement than saving the day. believe me, you don't want people like me armed around you because you would be one of the people I would take down. If it has a gun and is not a police officer I would waste it. That means you hero boy.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Nope. What you suggest is completely unrealistic. Do you think that either Aurora or Newtown would have been "committed" under some new system ?
    Actually yes. Aurora at least as Holmes would have been barred from buying firearms as his pysch evals would have flagged markers and prevented a sale.

    Newtown is something else as he took weapons legally owned by his mother and used them. Part of that is his mother's fault for actually having weapons available to a nutjob.

    Tell me how it's unrealistic to link pysch evals to firearm purchases.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Sooo.. fish in a barrel is preferred because it makes CSI a little easier at first glance.
    You will need to explain your entire thought as I am not proficient in whatever it is you are talking about.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    You will need to explain your entire thought as I am not proficient in whatever it is you are talking about.
    I apologize for your reading comprehension. If you cant see how it ties in to your post its not my fault.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    I apologize for your reading comprehension. If you cant see how it ties in to your post its not my fault.
    in other words you had nothing of any importance to say. OK, I got the message.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Actually yes. Aurora at least as Holmes would have been barred from buying firearms as his pysch evals would have flagged markers and prevented a sale.

    Newtown is something else as he took weapons legally owned by his mother and used them. Part of that is his mother's fault for actually having weapons available to a nutjob.

    Tell me how it's unrealistic to link pysch evals to firearm purchases.

    Israel does this.
    I will cede you psyche evals. I am OK with such. I am also OK with such as 3 day waits, so as to conduct a more thorough background check.

    But I also want the good guys to have guns always. And no more "gun free zones".

    OBTW, perhaps not mentioned, but all that a "gun free zone", or a "drug free zone" designates are harsher penalties if caught with such in that zone. Not unlike "higher fines when workers present" where there are road repairs ongoing.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    in other words you had nothing of any importance to say. OK, I got the message.
    Hey you are the one touting that people shouldn't be able to defend them selves because it could confuse the crime scene investigators little brain. One of the stupidest anti gun rights statements I've heard to date.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    No, you don't get it. You are not saving anyone. you are not a hero. You are not protecting the world. The reality is that if gunshots started around you and you had an obvious assault rifle you would be dead. Why? because anyone with even the most smallest of brain shoots the armed man first. yeah, you are there with your assault rifle and all that makes you is a gigantic target. If you do survive the police will have trouble telling you from the actual shooter and you will just confuse the situation. That is reality. You need to stop living in the movies. From your perception the gunfire starts and while you are trying to figure out whether or not the shooting is over or still a threat and where to go the killer is moving on and will eventually see you. You don't know what is going on, and you are clearly a scared rabbit ready to twitch fire and frankly I would much rather you not fire. I don't trust your reasoning or abilities. I know you are far more likely to be a danger to the people around you and an interference to law enforcement than saving the day. believe me, you don't want people like me armed around you because you would be one of the people I would take down. If it has a gun and is not a police officer I would waste it. That means you hero boy.
    well, you have me convinced.... you most assuredly should not be armed.

    I should be, but not you.... you're dangerous.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    I will cede you psyche evals. I am OK with such. I am also OK with such as 3 day waits, so as to conduct a more thorough background check.
    I think linking pysche evals would do wonders. The Virgina Tech shooter bought his weapons legally. Despite having MAJOR psychological warnings. It would be breach of current privacy rules, but at this point, I think it's worth it. 20 2nd graders are six feet under. We have to do something.

    We get firearms out of the hands of the crazy and we'll see far fewer shooters committing mass violence.

    But I also want the good guys to have guns always. And no more "gun free zones".

    OBTW, perhaps not mentioned, but all that a "gun free zone", or a "drug free zone" designates are harsher penalties if caught with such in that zone. Not unlike "higher fines when workers present" where there are road repairs ongoing.
    I don't think that a suicidal gunman really give a crap about higher penalties. That said, I do think bars should be gun free zones. Alcohol and guns do not mix.

    Germany does have a decent merit argument in limiting ammunition size. Apparently their rifles for civilian use limits to 3 rounds, 2 in the mag and 1 in the chamber. Kind of hard to commit mass killings with 3 bullets at a time. But we'll still have millions of higher magazines out there so it's rather moot.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    well, you have me convinced.... you most assuredly should not be armed.

    I should be, but not you.... you're dangerous.
    Yeah, and that is why I don't need a gun to do damage!

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