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    Re: NRA Newtown response

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    Actually, I thought your post to be pretty stupid myself. Now how about adding something to the debate ... or is that a "Conservative" thing ?
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Of course you've left out daycare centers, malls, movie theaters, restaurants, fast food joints. In short, any place where people gather.

    Sadly the NRA, which used to be a decent organization at one time, is now devoted to protecting the rights of survivalists and people desiring to purchase cop-killer bullets. If they were't so dangerous they'd be a joke.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I don't see that happening. You get credit for being an optimist though.


    And there are still costs. Mental health exams. Training. Background checks. Equipment. Etc.
    Cost ? I think its worth the investment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Of course you've left out daycare centers, malls, movie theaters, restaurants, fast food joints. In short, any place where people gather.

    Sadly the NRA, which used to be a decent organization at one time, is now devoted to protecting the rights of survivalists and people desiring to purchase cop-killer bullets. If they were't so dangerous they'd be a joke.

    I agree with you that the NRA has gone off into the extreme from where they were once but I think they got this one right. The difference from malls and restaurants is there is a higher percentage of adults than at schools.

    Schools are where you might have 20-30 kids per adult. That is a high number of very vulnerable people. With higher number of adults there may more of a chance of some adults taking the charge against an assailant or leading others to safety. Having a safety officer is a set of eyes and ears to not only protect against an armed assailant he may also be a deterrent to a kidnapping of a child. And am not so delusional to think one safety guard can do it all but makes a good effort and may make some moron think twice.

    I give credit to the NRA for this but not an enamored with the number of men in their 50's who never served in the military who now feel with a gun they are a Rambo who bark for the NRA.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    The NRA's message of a national database for the "mentally ill" is exploiting paranoia in order to divert the issue from gun control to eugenics. In so doing, they have traded potentially one negative platform for an evil platform.

    If the NRA wants to pick this fight, I for one will oppose them. Eugenic attitudes are in no way comparable to the rights of gun owners.

    In comparison with further curbing the rights of these citizens, gun owners come off as a bunch of cry babies.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    The NRA's message of a national database for the "mentally ill" is exploiting paranoia in order to divert the issue from gun control to eugenics. In so doing, they have traded potentially one negative platform for an evil platform.

    If the NRA wants to pick this fight, I for one will oppose them.
    Could you imagine what would happen if the NRA spent just half of the resources they spend on defending everybody's right to carry any weapon anywhere to combating and treating mental illness?


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    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Could you imagine what would happen if the NRA spent just half of the resources they spend on defending everybody's right to carry any weapon anywhere to combating and treating mental illness?
    I wouldn't want their money going to it. Accepting their resources with that attitude is akin to accepting funds from the Nazis to help end ethnic disparity.

    Give me a choice between genocidal rhetoric and controls on weapons and ammo, I'll choose gun control every single time.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Don't know if this has been posted yet but I just tripped across it:


    It was due to Mr. Wayne LaPierre's comments after the Oklahoma City bombing. LaPierre is the guy that made the NRA's public statement yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Cost ? I think its worth the investment.
    Meh. If you want fully trained and credentialed resource officers in schools then feel free to argue for it. I can't wait to hear how you plan to pay for it without borrowing money from China or raising taxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    I agree with you that the NRA has gone off into the extreme from where they were once but I think they got this one right. The difference from malls and restaurants is there is a higher percentage of adults than at schools.

    Schools are where you might have 20-30 kids per adult. That is a high number of very vulnerable people. With higher number of adults there may more of a chance of some adults taking the charge against an assailant or leading others to safety. Having a safety officer is a set of eyes and ears to not only protect against an armed assailant he may also be a deterrent to a kidnapping of a child. And am not so delusional to think one safety guard can do it all but makes a good effort and may make some moron think twice.

    I give credit to the NRA for this but not an enamored with the number of men in their 50's who never served in the military who now feel with a gun they are a Rambo who bark for the NRA.
    An armed safety office didn't help a bit at the Columbine school. Why would you think it would make a difference anywhere then? The whole shooting in Newtown was over in 3 minutes. No "safety officer would have been able to stop it either. Those weapons are just too fast and powerful.

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