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    Re: NRA Newtown response

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    Only thing I can think of is its some hair-brained way of delegitimizing the 2nd amendment people's voice by attaching something really, really stupid to that message. Give the mainstream news something to sink their teeth into and trumpet to the world.
    What will be interesting is to see if the people on the left that were previously being critical of violent video games and even suggesting we do whatever it takes to stop their "non-stop violence" suddenly either go silent on that topic or completely shift gears now that the NRA is throwing scorn and blame upon it for violence that occurs.

    You know, I'm not even a guy who gives much a **** about guns in my personal life but am largely pro-gun in general political. Had the NRA simply came out and largely defended the reason why gun control in response to this is idiotic, called for a focus on mental illness or parental involvement if they wanted to go on the offensive a bit, and basically express their sympathy for this situation I'd be having nothing negative to say what so ever and may've actually been applauding them. But when they attempted to get on some kind of moral soap box, proclaiming moral indignation over the notion the Media/politicans doesn't treat violent video games and movies in a similar fashion and suggesting that those things are actually more worthy of such coverage/action and scapegoating something else as part of the "Blame" for these kind of things, THAT'S what gets my goat and moves me out of a position where I can support them.

    Not to mention the whole "armed guard" thing in and of itself is a rather idiotic notion, not to mention one essentially encouraging greater government spending and further federal mandates to the education system. And, of course, beyond that it's basically attempting to capitalize on this to respond by making a political argument that favors their specific political agenda....the type of thing NRA supporters were condemning the Democrats for doing regarding the tragedy.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I thought this was a good response to the NRA statement today:

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    Check post #239

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Oh for God's sake. They would be there to protect them, not have "power over them."
    Does this forum have a limit?

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Check post #239
    So that's the way it's gonna be huh?
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    What will be interesting is to see if the people on the left that were previously being critical of violent video games and even suggesting we do whatever it takes to stop their "non-stop violence" suddenly either go silent on that topic or completely shift gears now that the NRA is throwing scorn and blame upon it for violence that occurs.

    You know, I'm not even a guy who gives much a **** about guns in my personal life but am largely pro-gun in general political. Had the NRA simply came out and largely defended the reason why gun control in response to this is idiotic, called for a focus on mental illness or parental involvement if they wanted to go on the offensive a bit, and basically express their sympathy for this situation I'd be having nothing negative to say what so ever and may've actually been applauding them. But when they attempted to get on some kind of moral soap box, proclaiming moral indignation over the notion the Media/politicans doesn't treat violent video games and movies in a similar fashion and suggesting that those things are actually more worthy of such coverage/action and scapegoating something else as part of the "Blame" for these kind of things, THAT'S what gets my goat and moves me out of a position where I can support them.

    Not to mention the whole "armed guard" thing in and of itself is a rather idiotic notion, not to mention one essentially encouraging greater government spending and further federal mandates to the education system.
    Ah duh, Wayne la Pierre is not a Libertarian; he's conservative. Enroaching upon all other liberties except gun ownership is one of the fundamental goals of the GOP.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Ah duh, Wayne la Pierre is not a Libertarian; he's conservative. Enroaching upon all other liberties except gun ownership is one of the fundamental goals of the GOP.
    another really stupid comment

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Ah duh, Wayne la Pierre is not a Libertarian; he's conservative. Enroaching upon all other liberties except gun ownership is one of the fundamental goals of the GOP.
    And thank you for this wonderfully ignorant stereotype based answer that is ignorant of the fact that I'M a conservative and part of the GOP

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Clinton Pledges Funds to Add Police to Schools - Los Angeles Times

    Clinton also unveiled the $60-million fifth round of funding for "COPS in School," a Justice Department program that helps pay the costs of placing police officers in schools to help make them safer for students and teachers. The money will be used to provide 452 officers in schools in more than 220 communities.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Please, explain to me how politics "Forced" the NRA to respond.

    I'm all ears.
    "Compelled" is a synonym for "forced". Does that make it easier ?

    The NRA are the American gun owners. Our voice. That we pay for. The defenders of Amendment #2, as written and intended. Why do you get all wrapped around the axle on some petty and inconsequential word choice ? Why the confusion over something simple ?

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    From your article it looks like the GOP is at odds with the NRA...

    Republican critics said the federal government is a clumsy middleman in trying to cope with problems that should be addressed locally.

    I'm sure they'll kiss and make up though and the GOP will miraculously all the sudden be for it.
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