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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    False analogy. The contest is not to see who has more. It is to compare us with similar countries with regard to gun ownership and crime.

    Look at Switzerland, for starters. Explain that.
    Crime is not what Americans are agonizing over, it is the needless slaughter of innocent people by cowards with guns.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Ugg, pathetic.

    Both sides make me sick.

    One rushes to blame guns and now the NRA rushes to ****ing blame video games and movies.

    ****'em both.

    Its **** like this that makes it clear that while I don't agree with most of those fighting the battle of "gun control", I don't buy that the NRA is some protectors of the constitution. They're no different than the other side...they just give a crap about the rights that suit them politically.
    It's so ****ing polarized you can't hold a conversation at all. I think the NRA is a douche organization but I don't think all guns should be banned but in this thread, just because I noted that I don't care for the NRA I've been automatically put in a category I'm not in. It's an impossible topic to broach.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Crime is not what Americans are agonizing over, it is the needless slaughter of innocent people by cowards with guns.
    OK. Compare "slaughters" then. Do you need a hankie ?

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Crime is not what Americans are agonizing over, it is the needless slaughter of innocent people by cowards with guns.
    that's a crime

    DUH

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    It's so ****ing polarized you can't hold a conversation at all. I think the NRA is a douche organization but I don't think all guns should be banned but in this thread, just because I noted that I don't care for the NRA I've been automatically put in a category I'm not in. It's an impossible topic to broach.
    I feel for you. I'm in the category of "more guns or less guns is not really a solution" and that seems to automatically put me in the "gun control" category.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    So now the standard is "committed" ? That was not your earlier argument, and as they say "good luck with that" .....
    Nope. You're just making stuff up. Families need to be educated about potential risks and proper agencies need to be informed about such mental issues, including serious red flags.

    We either do this, or we tolerate more kids betting shot in cold blood.

    Take your pick.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's a crime

    DUH
    I see, you have trouble differentiating a robbery with the slaughter of innocent people. Thanks for the info. That helps explain a lot!
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    So what is different from the 50's and 60's to now ? The guns ?

    I don't think so.
    Parents...from the amount of time focused on the kids, to the type of child rearing occurring, to the types of messages that are provided to the children and the type of accountability they're given?Similarly, schools themselves and the change in mentality, discipline structure, and regarding messages of responsibility? Not to mention increase in class sizes, reducing the individual attention and chance for something to be noticed and also increasing the potential for more targets close together. Free flowing and readily available information contributing to a generalized heightening of knowledge and a feeling of "maturity" in kids due to it? Narcissistic outlets of communication that enhance the ability for an egocentric mindset to set in? More and more reliance on medication and drugs within the younger generation? More readily available news, making the knowledge of such incidents become more commonly in grained in peoples minds, allowing people to know they'll be talked about and focused on if they did this, and allowing all of us to hear about them happening in instances where no one outside of the local area may've heard about it 30 or 40 years ago? Change in mentality of the adults and even sometimes the "kids" in such situations in terms of taking action to try and stop the situation?

    But no...no you're right, clearly it's violent movies and games.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Sometimes art does better than rambling text in getting a message across



    And ditto for those to ignorant to realize they're only able to attempt to damage the 2nd thanks to people not doing the same type of things to the 1st

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I see, you have trouble differentiating a robbery with the slaughter of innocent people. Thanks for the info. That helps explain a lot!
    actually as someone who spent some time prosecuting crimes I suspect I am far better educated than you are on this subject and you differentiating one type of crime from another does not make something other than robbery not a crime

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