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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    We are a sick society.
    I don't buy this for a second.

    Violent game and porn usage is rampant across America, but mass gun violence is not.

    Utah has high gun ownership and one of the highest uses of porn in America. When was the last time we saw mass shooting there?

    The problem is our mental healthcare issues. Look at every single major mass gun shooting in the past 20 years. Virtually all of them are done by mentally unstable people.

    If we are a Sick Society, it is because we fail to address those who need mental help.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Ugg, pathetic.

    Both sides make me sick.

    One rushes to blame guns and now the NRA rushes to ****ing blame video games and movies.

    ****'em both.

    Its **** like this that makes it clear that while I don't agree with most of those fighting the battle of "gun control", I don't buy that the NRA is some protectors of the constitution. They're no different than the other side...they just give a crap about the rights that suit them politically.
    So what is different from the 50's and 60's to now ? The guns ?

    I don't think so.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    You got one massive flaw there. There are countries without the "no gun" laws, who in fact have lots of guns, but have uber-lower gun crime than the U.S. If you cut off every man's penis, you could claim birth control worked too. But that is not birth control as we will have to craft such. Just as Japan is not a model we will achieve.

    It ain't the guns.
    Show us the other wealthy countries with no gun laws that have a higher incidence of gun deaths?
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    The above is all nonsense. No facts. No links. Nothing.
    I used to post links. But then I learned that the confirmation bias of posters on this forum inhibited them from accepting any evidence or information that did not confirm what they already believed. As such, no matter how much evidence I would post on any given topic, it could never and would never meet the burden of proof established by whatever individual I was debating. Rather, I find it easier to assert the facts and leave it to those who are actually capable of challenging their confirmation bias to attend to checking the facts themselves. However, I find that very few even take the time to see if the evidence refutes what I had to say, and I don't see you being an exception to the case.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    The economy will improve under this bill. If a few people die, it will be for the betterament of this country.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I'm going to enjoy watching conservative gun nuts argue that the government needs to spend $8 billion a year putting police in every school in the country while at the same time arguing for "smaller government" and "deficit reduction".

    again, such a posts proves that your desire for more gun restrictions is to hassle the NRA not restrict criminals. I support armed teachers and administrators and getting rid of gun free zones

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    I don't buy this for a second.

    Violent game and porn usage is rampant across America, but mass gun violence is not.

    Utah has high gun ownership and one of the highest uses of porn in America. When was the last time we saw mass shooting there?

    The problem is our mental healthcare issues. Look at every single major mass gun shooting in the past 20 years. Virtually all of them are done by mentally unstable people.

    If we are a Sick Society, it is because we fail to address those who need mental help.
    Really ? Did not the Aurora shooter have a shrink, who reported deep concerns ? Was not Lanza noted to have problems ? Been to see shrinks ? From a family of uber-means ? Who was denied access there ? Who was not "addressed" within the scope of legitimate foresight ?

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Show us the other wealthy countries with no gun laws that have a higher incidence of gun deaths?
    what a silly post. there is no country on earth that is either free of guns or free of gun laws

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I used to post links. But then I learned that the confirmation bias of posters on this forum inhibited them from accepting any evidence or information that did not confirm what they already believed. As such, no matter how much evidence I would post on any given topic, it could never and would never meet the burden of proof established by whatever individual I was debating. Rather, I find it easier to assert the facts and leave it to those who are actually capable of challenging their confirmation bias to attend to checking the facts themselves. However, I find that very few even take the time to see if the evidence refutes what I had to say, and I don't see you being an exception to the case.
    And I see you as a lazy poster.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Never off their person or a lockbox, would be fine.
    It can entirely voluntary, but the teachers should report to the presiding principle of the school.
    That should be mandatory.
    I say on them at all times. I remember kids being very, very sneaky and very, very craft during my school years. They did many things under the teachers nose RIGHT when they let their guard down. Lockbox maybe in the main faculty locked 4 times over by doors and such. So the principle could distribute to those who feel up to the task if the "crazy" alarm goes off.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    LOL ....... try again.
    I'm not sure why you are laughing. I just called you a poor judge of accuracy based on your assessment. I would not consider that a laughing matter. Your response indicates that you had nothing to disprove my argument.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    The economy will improve under this bill. If a few people die, it will be for the betterament of this country.

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