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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Now we are to take time to turn people into highly trained security personel... the very people who, as we've been told for some time now, are overpaid and incompetent teachers whose pay are bankrupting cities and who barely have time in the day to sleep after teaching all day and grading papers all night.
    In Israel, teachers are veterans. Seems like a rather obvious source for such personnel.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Now we are to take time to turn people into highly trained security personel... the very people who, as we've been told for some time now, are overpaid and incompetent teachers whose pay are bankrupting cities and who barely have time in the day to sleep after teaching all day and grading papers all night.
    That's not it at all.
    A teacher seeking a CCW permit, is more likely to be trained than your average teacher.

    If you think that they should have official training, before being allowed to carry on campus, I'd be on board with that.
    Make it voluntary.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    trained teachers and administrators. If the principal at at Sandy Hook would have had a firearm locked in a safe that she had easy access to those children could have been saved. Why is that so hard for people to believe?
    ...because that would not allow them to cynically leverage the deaths of children to achieve policy goals?

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Now we are to take time to turn people into highly trained security personel... the very people who, as we've been told for some time now, are overpaid and incompetent teachers whose pay are bankrupting cities and who barely have time in the day to sleep after teaching all day and grading papers all night.
    Excellent point Rob!
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    trained teachers and administrators. If the principal at at Sandy Hook would have had a firearm locked in a safe that she had easy access those children could have been saved. Why is that so hard for people to believe?
    How many times do we have to repeat this?

    There was an armed guard at Columbine.

    Nancy Lanza was pretty well armed as well. How'd that work out for her.

    The over-whelming majority of parents would never support that at elementary schools. NEVER. (in fact any parent who would support that should get a visit from child services IMO)

    Patrols with trained police officers, fine. But those officers' time would be better spent auditing and updating lists of people who are never allowed to own a weapon. Every police department should have an anonymous tip line for people to call in their concerns about gun owners in the community who may have flew under the radar. The police can check public records for domestic abuse, and military records for dishonorable discharge or PTSD.

    Will these armed principles and janitors be wearing Kevlar vests? Because all the shooters do.

    Do you guys think these things through?

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    ...because that would not allow them to cynically leverage the deaths of children to achieve policy goals?
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

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    Ban it.
    Thank you for clearly representing the intellect of the right. Well done!

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Now we are to take time to turn people into highly trained security personel... the very people who, as we've been told for some time now, are overpaid and incompetent teachers whose pay are bankrupting cities and who barely have time in the day to sleep after teaching all day and grading papers all night.
    cops and teachers tend to be similar. the jobs pay about the same and I expect the academic records in HS are about the same. I can teach most people with an average IQ and average physical skills to out shoot most cops in less than two days. in fact I taught a boy who had NO firearms experience prior to being trained by me to qualify as expert in both handgun (Beretta 92/M9) and a M16A2 at the USNA. I suspect (based on 35 years of competitive shooting) that most urban police could not do that

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    In Israel, teachers are veterans. Seems like a rather obvious source for such personnel.
    sadly, in our country, many teachers became teachers to avoid serving (at least when I was a kid)

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    I'm going to enjoy watching conservative gun nuts argue that the government needs to spend $8 billion a year putting police in every school in the country while at the same time arguing for "smaller government" and "deficit reduction".
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