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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The 1994 ban did not take away gun owner's rights, or it would have been challenged in court.
    are you saying it was not

    and we now have precedent on our side

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Since that is where most illegal gun purchases occur, it undoubtedly will cut down on murders. That is why police associations support it.
    that is false, several people have posted ATF studies showing less than 2% of all crime guns come from gun shows. far more come from friends of criminals buying or giving guns to criminals

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    are you saying it was not
    and we now have precedent on our side
    There's no need to engage those unwilling to honestly discuss a topic.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Since that is where most illegal gun purchases occur, it undoubtedly will cut down on murders. That is why police associations support it.
    That is completely ridiculous and naive. It is EASY for people to get illegal guns off the streets. Just google it and see for yourself. If someone wants a gun, any gun, they can get it regardless of the laws.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that is false, several people have posted ATF studies showing less than 2% of all crime guns come from gun shows. far more come from friends of criminals buying or giving guns to criminals
    If the police associations believe it will help reduce the number of guns getting into the hands of crazies and criminals, that's good enough for me.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    are you saying it was not

    and we now have precedent on our side

    The decade long ban was never ruled to be unconstitutional. I am happy you think your case is solid!
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If the police associations believe it will help reduce the number of guns getting into the hands of crazies and criminals, that's good enough for me.

    Its amazing to see you swallow the lines from police bureaucrats but in 1996 Janet Reno commissioned a massive poll of the police over the brady bill and the AWB. The results were suppressed because the results indicated 92% of the police thought the waiting period was worthless and 88% thought the AWB was a joke as well

    police associations tend to be run by big city bureaucrats who are beholden to big city mayors

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I am happy you think your case is solid!
    non responsive- how many times have you made this claim

    but I see you never answered Chris's question on how the stuff you want will actually help. rather you diverted by referring to some uncited police polls and then this diversion to me

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Its amazing to see you swallow the lines from police bureaucrats but in 1996 Janet Reno commissioned a massive poll of the police over the brady bill and the AWB. The results were suppressed because the results indicated 92% of the police thought the waiting period was worthless and 88% thought the AWB was a joke as well

    police associations tend to be run by big city bureaucrats who are beholden to big city mayors
    Good point.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That is completely ridiculous and naive. It is EASY for people to get illegal guns off the streets. Just google it and see for yourself. If someone wants a gun, any gun, they can get it regardless of the laws.

    You'd think they never paid attention to the war on drugs.

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