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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    *Shaking Head*

    We can put armed guards in most courthouses in the United States. Limited access at most every police station in the country. Yet we think protecting our children is polishing a turd.
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    We have 10% unemployment among our veterans.... and a whole bunch of schools who need trained responders who have a proven willingness to put themselves in danger for the sake of others. Sounds to me like we should let one problem solve another.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I don't know the answer for sure (does anybody?), but gun violence in the US is staggeringly high.
    Violence in the US is higher than other industrialized nations - and that rate does not change if you control for guns.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    LOL ... you ask me two yes/no questions, and I answer "no" to each, and you then say that the answer should be "yes". Is that the kind of debate you are talking about ?

    I not only rebutted your example, with facts, but you have failed to then rebut my points. You can keep whining though.

    Folks. Before the VA Teck shooting, campus police there did not carry guns. Afterwards, they changed the policy, and now they do.

    Same with Northern Illinois. That is the best first solution. Not "gun control". Not the decay of society, which cannot be reversed before it gets much worse.
    I made two points in the post you argued with. Let me rehash them for you:

    In 2006 Japan had 2 gun homicides. You have not refuted this point.

    Gun control laws can work. You have not refuted this.

    Get back to me when you can refute anything I actually said. ANother hint for you: culture is irrelevant to what I said, since culture cannot account for the entirety of the differences between US and Japanese gun homicide rates.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
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    We have 10% unemployment among our veterans.... and a whole bunch of schools who need trained responders who have a proven willingness to put themselves in danger for the sake of others. Sounds to me like we should let one problem solve another.
    Goodto know conservatives favor bigger government...
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The NRA didn't know that Columbine already had armed guards on their campus, and Virginia Tech already had a police force on their campus? How did that work out?
    They were not armed at Va Tech. At Columbine, the armed guard was outside the building the entire time, and not where the perps entered.

    Deputy Neil Gardner was a 15-year veteran of the Jefferson County, Colo., Sheriff’s Office assigned as the uniformed officer at Columbine. According to an account compiled by the police department, Gardner fired on Harris but was unsuccessful in stopping him:

    Gardner, seeing Harris working with his gun, leaned over the top of the car and fired four shots. He was 60 yards from the gunman. Harris spun hard to the right and Gardner momentarily thought he had hit him. Seconds later, Harris began shooting again at the deputy.
    After the exchange of gunfire, Harris ran back into the building. Gardner was able to get on the police radio and called for assistance from other Sheriff’s units. "Shots in the building. I need someone in the south lot with me."
    He did at least get a shot off at Harris, but only after much damage had already been done.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Violence in the US is higher than other industrialized nations - and that rate does not change if you control for guns.
    The US has never implemented a countrywide restrictive gun control law of any significance. State and local restrictions are not a safe comparison since any one can simply drive a few miles and buy. There is also the problem of isolating for changes in gun laws. In other words, the claim you make is debatable.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Goodto know conservatives favor bigger government...
    Not at all.



    We're rather fat on administrators right now; and they make pretty good pay. Simply turn some of those positions into First Responders, or hire veterans to fill those positions who have the ancillary duty of being a First Responder. You don't need active patrol in all schools (some you might); you simply need someone with the training and ability to put down a shooter before they kill too many.

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    Re: NRA Newtown response

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    Homo sex is between consenting adults. Gun violence not so much;. Stupid comparisons are stupid.
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    Homo Sex can be rape...... which is not consenting........

    Shooting a semi auto rifle at targets is a hobby that one consents to.
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    Re: NRA Newtown response

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I made two points in the post you argued with. Let me rehash them for you:

    In 2006 Japan had 2 gun homicides. You have not refuted this point.
    That is not a point. It is a fact.

    Gun control laws can work. You have not refuted this.
    That is a "point". Japan has a "no gun" policy, which is not analogous to the US consideration of "gun control". Our version of "gun control" cannot work based on any results from Japan. A point I already made. Which you chose to ignore. Further, Japan has enormously lower crime rates in every catagory compared to us, where they have as much opportunity as us to commit such. That also deflates your "gun control" argument, as their homicide by knife rate is far lower then ours, yet they have access to such (not swords).

    Get back to me when you can refute anything I actually said. ANother hint for you: culture is irrelevant to what I said, since culture cannot account for the entirety of the differences between US and Japanese gun homicide rates.
    I can refute you well in my sleep. I do it with prejudice when I am awake

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