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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If we were all packin', this sort of thing wouldn't happen as much.

    There will always be bad people in the world. The only thing that will change will be the ability of decent people to protect themselves.
    Sir: to be frank with you, there will be times that a person that's packing (so to speak.) may be able to make a difference, but most of the time it would be better off if that person stay out of it because that person may harm others in the process. I don't care how much training one gets on the shooting range; it doesn't prepare them for the emotional impact of that very moment when the shooting starts. If you do not believe me try going to ranges where they simulate that sort of thing where you have silhouettes of good guys and bad guys popping out in front of you; and to intensify that situation the instructor will give you a limited amount of time to get through the course. I think that you will find out just how many good guys you will hit in the end.
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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by RLN View Post
    Sir: to be frank with you, there will be times that a person that's packing (so to speak.) may be able to make a difference, but most of the time it would be better off if that person stay out of it because that person may harm others in the process. I don't care how much training one gets on the shooting range; it doesn't prepare them for the emotional impact of that very moment when the shooting starts. If you do not believe me try going to ranges where they simulate that sort of thing where you have silhouettes of good guys and bad guys popping out in front of you; and to intensify that situation the instructor will give you a limited amount of time to get through the course. I think that you will find out just how many good guys you will hit in the end.
    So hypothetically speaking, let's say you're in a school while a shooting was occuring. The guy next to you pulls out his gun and says "I'm going to stop this!" You would grab him by the arm and say "No, bro, you'll do more harm than good, just stay."
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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by RLN View Post
    Sir: to be frank with you, there will be times that a person that's packing (so to speak.) may be able to make a difference, but most of the time it would be better off if that person stay out of it because that person may harm others in the process. I don't care how much training one gets on the shooting range; it doesn't prepare them for the emotional impact of that very moment when the shooting starts. If you do not believe me try going to ranges where they simulate that sort of thing where you have silhouettes of good guys and bad guys popping out in front of you; and to intensify that situation the instructor will give you a limited amount of time to get through the course. I think that you will find out just how many good guys you will hit in the end.
    Which is completely different than having one bad guy and you know it before you even draw.

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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    They just keep coming...

    "WENTZVILLE, Mo. (AP) - A Wentzville man is jailed after allegedly becoming agitated during a barber shop discussion of the Newtown, Conn., shooting and allegedly shooting in the direction of a patron.

    Assault, armed criminal action and unlawful possession of a weapon charges were filed against 57-year-old Lester Davis of Wentzville following the shooting Tuesday at All Cuts Barber Shop in Wentzville.

    A patron made the comment that the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School made him want to kill the suspect. For unknown reasons, police say Davis took the comment as a threat and asked, “You want to murder me?”

    Davis then allegedly went to his car, retrieved a pistol and fired three times in the customer’s direction. No one was hurt."

    Barber Shop Argument Over Sandy Hook Shooting Leads To Gun Violence

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    Those responcibile gun owners got to love then

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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by TaraAnne View Post
    Those responcibile gun owners got to love then
    You're so right. Now the very rare ones who make the news...those generally aren't representative of the millions of responsible gun owners.

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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    do you have proof of that, many gangs have fully automatic weapons. those don't come from legal owners. they come from international black markets and from our own military and police arsenals
    Sure they do, his name is Barack Obama. We had a border guard killed over it.
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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by RLN View Post
    Sir: to be frank with you, there will be times that a person that's packing (so to speak.) may be able to make a difference, but most of the time it would be better off if that person stay out of it because that person may harm others in the process. I don't care how much training one gets on the shooting range; it doesn't prepare them for the emotional impact of that very moment when the shooting starts. If you do not believe me try going to ranges where they simulate that sort of thing where you have silhouettes of good guys and bad guys popping out in front of you; and to intensify that situation the instructor will give you a limited amount of time to get through the course. I think that you will find out just how many good guys you will hit in the end.
    There's absolutely no evidence to support what you're saying. In fact, the evidence disproves your comments.
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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    It would be harder to do a driveby with no cars or roads. With 300 Million guns out there, the "go after the guns" side is quite unrealistic a solution to crime. It is political masturbation.
    See this is to me as unreasonable as the anti-gun side.

    The idea that the answer to gun violence in the United States is more and more guns in the hands of more and more people.

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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Before we go all hogwild here, could this be related to the date and Mayan prediction hammered upon for the last year by the media?
    Well, bizarre human behavior might have been influenced by the Mayan event, no doubt. Mass psychosis is certainly possible.

    This event was NOT sponsored by some black government agency, this was just a spontaneous loss of mind by a 18 year convict, some years later, perhaps in response to what happened in Newtown.

    Suicidal Vietnam Vet, as the song used to go.

    Still, short of taking away all guns, how in the hell could some vague gun law have prevented this? He was already forbidden by law from possessing a firearm because he was a felon. In a perverse way, that illustrates how impotent the law really can be.

    I'm reminded of the words of W.H. Auden, those to whom evil is done, do evil in return.

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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Install guns on cars, guns on buildings, guns on trees with cameras.. Then put guns on the guns so that the guns can protect themselves from other guns.. Then, you need to have guns pointed at those guns to protect themselves from themselves and other guns guns.
    This sounds very reasonable, I am sure the gunnies would agree.
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