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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    There is actually an irony here. This mass shooting happened at the same time the NRA was holding their press conference in which they called for armed personnel in every school.
    It does not meet the definition of a mass killing:

    "The victims were shot at separate locations, and investigators said they are processing five different crime scenes."
    Even the number is too low. Four dead including the shooter.

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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    It does not meet the definition of a mass killing:

    "The victims were shot at separate locations, and investigators said they are processing five different crime scenes."
    Even the number is too low. Four dead including the shooter.
    That depends on your definition; see this link's definition: A Guide to Mass Shootings in America | Mother Jones
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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    It it is outlawed and you refuse to give them up then it would be treated the same as any other criminal action would be treated.
    get used to the idea the guns will not be banned... you will not get the guns.

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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    This does not meet the definition of a mass killing:

    "The victims were shot at separate locations, and investigators said they are processing five different crime scenes."

    The victims had the right to self defense. Perhaps they were not armed.
    Maybe they weren't on horseback or waiting for a stagecoach too, but that's not my point; the point is if people are shot in some area, Pro-gun says we should put people with guns in that area or arm people. Sooner or later gun proponents will have all of us wearing six-shooters and riding horses; I thought we were past this sort of thing.
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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Earlier I wrote, "t does not meet the definition of a mass killing:

    "The victims were shot at separate locations, and investigators said they are processing five different crime scenes."
    Even the number is too low. Four dead including the shooter."

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That depends on your definition; see this link's definition: A Guide to Mass Shootings in America | Mother Jones
    They were shot at separate locations. I have been using five as the number even if one includes the shooter. This looks more like a shooting spree. I suppose we should determine what the fbi uses in its definition.

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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by RLN View Post
    Maybe they weren't on horseback or waiting for a stagecoach too, but that's not my point; the point is if people are shot in some area, Pro-gun says we should put people with guns in that area or arm people. Sooner or later gun proponents will have all of us wearing six-shooters and riding horses; I thought we were past this sort of thing.
    I suppose we can agree to disagree.

    I do not see any way to stop all murders. I was focused on the lesser problem of mass killings.

    For those who believe, as I do that my very existence is why I have a right to defend myself, then I benefit directly by concealed carry and you benefit indirectly.

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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Earlier I wrote, "t does not meet the definition of a mass killing:

    "The victims were shot at separate locations, and investigators said they are processing five different crime scenes."
    Even the number is too low. Four dead including the shooter."



    They were shot at separate locations. I have been using five as the number even if one includes the shooter. This looks more like a shooting spree. I suppose we should determine what the fbi uses in its definition.
    That is why I included the reference site. Some, like the "DC sniper" used both rifles, handguns and accomplices and killed serially but in a very close time frame. Some are captured but most kill themselves or force police to do it. I am unsure what the "proper" definition is myself.

    Whether mass, spree or serial most of these bizzarre folks seem to be thrill killers, rather than doing it for any classic "motive", although the "DC sniper" intended to off his ex-wife as one of the "random" victims; at the time she lived just 6 miles from me and his accomplice struck at a bar/liquor store just 3 miles away.
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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    I bet your idea is shot down.


    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Install guns on cars, guns on buildings, guns on trees with cameras.. Then put guns on the guns so that the guns can protect themselves from other guns.. Then, you need to have guns pointed at those guns to protect themselves from themselves and other guns guns.

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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I suppose we can agree to disagree.

    I do not see any way to stop all murders. I was focused on the lesser problem of mass killings.

    For those who believe, as I do that my very existence is why I have a right to defend myself, then I benefit directly by concealed carry and you benefit indirectly.
    Sir, you are correct. And I sincerely hope that it works out to both our benefits. God Bless. Be safe.
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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by RLN View Post
    Maybe they weren't on horseback or waiting for a stagecoach too, but that's not my point; the point is if people are shot in some area, Pro-gun says we should put people with guns in that area or arm people. Sooner or later gun proponents will have all of us wearing six-shooters and riding horses; I thought we were past this sort of thing.
    If we were all packin', this sort of thing wouldn't happen as much.

    There will always be bad people in the world. The only thing that will change will be the ability of decent people to protect themselves.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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