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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by Brand814 View Post
    This happened 5 minutes from where I live and work. It's pretty crazy, I've said my piece on my opinion on gun control, but to have this happen literally a few minutes from where I was born and raised and reside is unreal. This is an area where things like this just don't happen.
    Not mocking you but I literally hear this almost every single time this happens. I guess because when it happens where unexpected it's what makes the news. As Vancemack says this happens all the time... I guess it's just not so newsworthy when it happens in expected places.
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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    the international black markets contain guns sold into it by legal owners.
    mainly governments or governmental operators. example, a guy I went to college with is a wealthy "broker" of "commodities" in Dubai. He noted he had 16,000 brand new (circa 1972) M16 rifles for sale when we ran into each other in NY about 28 years ago. He had bought them from the Communist government in Vietnam and was looking for buyers. its stuff we left over there and the NVA captured. He also had stuff from other similar sources.

    do you know how many weapons armies LOSE each year

    let me tell you how it works

    weapons are reported lost or destroyed all the time by soldiers. a Government Inspector I know was tasked with doing inventory on an army arsenal. He decided to make his inspection 2 weeks earlier than reported, this was a base overseas. He found 35 M16A2 rifles and several SAWs in perfect working order but they had been listed as

    a) lost in combat
    b) destroyed in war games
    c) demilled (destroyed) by an armorer due to reaching maximum service life

    in other words, people had made these guns "disappear" on paper so someone could steal them and no one would find them missing

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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Yes, and many of these shootings are not directed at the average person. They are gang related and are targeted shootings. Which leaves most of the regular populace out of danger unless you happen to get caught in the crossfire. However, these gangs and the criminals that comprise these gangs get these weapons from legal owners who sell them to them.
    Thanks for emphasizing my point. Its just gang violence so...its not like their victims are 'real' people...even the kids and innocent bystanders.

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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Maybe a law should be passedi making roadside ambushes illegal?
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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    mainly governments or governmental operators. example, a guy I went to college with is a wealthy "broker" of "commodities" in Dubai. He noted he had 16,000 brand new (circa 1972) M16 rifles for sale when we ran into each other in NY about 28 years ago. He had bought them from the Communist government in Vietnam and was looking for buyers. its stuff we left over there and the NVA captured. He also had stuff from other similar sources.

    do you know how many weapons armies LOSE each year

    let me tell you how it works

    weapons are reported lost or destroyed all the time by soldiers. a Government Inspector I know was tasked with doing inventory on an army arsenal. He decided to make his inspection 2 weeks earlier than reported, this was a base overseas. He found 35 M16A2 rifles and several SAWs in perfect working order but they had been listed as

    a) lost in combat
    b) destroyed in war games
    c) demilled (destroyed) by an armorer due to reaching maximum service life

    in other words, people had made these guns "disappear" on paper so someone could steal them and no one would find them missing
    Yes, so we need to ban weapons and put tons of manpower into controlling the import of illegal weapons.
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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Yes, so we need to ban weapons and put tons of manpower into controlling the import of illegal weapons.
    what are you going to do about all of us who won't give up our weapons?

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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what are you going to do about all of us who won't give up our weapons?
    It it is outlawed and you refuse to give them up then it would be treated the same as any other criminal action would be treated.
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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what are you going to do about all of us who won't give up our weapons?
    I don't know, Mr. Lawyer. What do you do about people who break the law?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I don't know, Mr. Lawyer. What do you do about people who break the law?
    If your track record on enforcement is anything like the track record regard gangs, thugs, and violent criminals, you will excuse it, ignore it, or blame the problems on someone else.

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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by RLN View Post
    Do we now need armed security placed in strategic places along the roads throughout the nation?
    This does not meet the definition of a mass killing:

    "The victims were shot at separate locations, and investigators said they are processing five different crime scenes."

    The victims had the right to self defense. Perhaps they were not armed.

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