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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    My point...people here continuously ignore the day to day violence and only focus on glitter deaths that they can exploit (you have had a few times at bat...maybe NOW you can show me all that concern expressed here about the day to day violence? Nah...I didn't think so) and your response was to blame the fact that people here and politicians and ALL of the anti-gun set ignores day to day violence was to invoke Fox News. Laughable. 50 threads about the school shooting. 40 threads about the Colorado theater shootings. A years worth of threads on Trayvon Martin. Day to day gun violence, 500 dead in Chicago this year alone, 3000 dead by black on black crime...nary a one. Crickets.
    I don't see how it is viable to discuss day to day violence on a day to day basis. On this forum, that would require the creation of, as you said, 500 threads this year alone just for Chicago. So yeah, special cases like these mass shootings get coverage because they are special cases. That's it.

    Meanwhile, it will continue to just be on an occasional basis that it is brought up because that's really all we can take.
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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    I don't see how it is viable to discuss day to day violence on a day to day basis. That would require the creation of, as you said, 500 this year alone just for Chicago. So yeah, special cases like these mass shootings get coverage because they are special cases. That's it.

    Meanwhile, it will continue to just be on an occasional basis that it is brought up because that's really all we can take.
    Of course not. There is virtually NO concern over the deaths of young black men in this country every day. I basically got tired of giving a running body count during the Trayvon Martin ordeal because NO ONE CARES. There is no talk of sweeping the streets, cleaning up the gangs, taking their guns, more restrictive penalties, or any other proactive measures to end the violence that claims 12000 lives a year. But 40-50 a year...boy...that gets some action. You are making my point.

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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Of course not. There is virtually NO concern over the deaths of young black men in this country every day. I basically got tired of giving a running body count during the Trayvon Martin ordeal because NO ONE CARES. There is no talk of sweeping the streets, cleaning up the gangs, taking their guns, more restrictive penalties, or any other proactive measures to end the violence that claims 12000 lives a year. But 40-50 a year...boy...that gets some action. You are making my point.
    I don't follow you. There is no talk of sweeping the streets or cleaning up gangs? I don't see how you get that at all. You couldn't squeeze anymore Americans into jail if you wanted to. Poor people who live in ghettos tend to resort to crime - no matter what race. Crime tends to lead to violence. The problem isn't exactly hidden.

    Fix the income disparity. Educate the poor better. Resolve the health care system's issues. Create better jobs.

    Non of those have anything to do with policing or crime policy, and every one of those would help lower the murder rate.
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    4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    I don't follow you. There is no talk of sweeping the streets or cleaning up gangs? I don't see how you get that at all. You couldn't squeeze anymore Americans into jail if you wanted to. Poor people who live in ghettos tend to resort to crime - no matter what race. Crime tends to lead to violence. The problem isn't exactly hidden.

    Fix the income disparity. Educate the poor better. Resolve the health care system's issues. Create better jobs.

    Non of those have anything to do with policing or crime policy, and every one of those would help lower the murder rate.
    Like I said. Totally laughable. We are just SO engaged in that problem. Right? 4-5 people dead in an inner city shooting...well...that's just drugs and hey...it's not really their fault. They iz oppressed! 4-5 people in rural Pa...front page news. Do you know how many "mass shootings" occurred in the days following the Connecticut school shootings? I'm willing to bet you don't know...and couldn't give a damn. Of course...I could just have MISSED all those threads.

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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    did not the anti gun hysterics claim that if we allowed people to carry weapons concealed every fender bender would result in shootouts

    it was an idiotic prediction then, just as yours is now. ITS Illegal to be drinking and have a gun on you

    thus we have a law to prevent what scares you
    Is that why less and less gun owners are buying more and more weapons? You need one to go with each of your "outfits"?
    Actually I'm starting to get scared that "gun nuts" ( and that is what you are called) are buying so many weapons because you are handing them out to criminals and psychopaths to try and blackmail the rest of us into buying some too. A self-fulfilling prophecy if ever heard one. For example who gave this maniac a Bushmaster? It wasn't you was it?

    (CNN) -- A sniper who ambushed volunteer firefighters in upstate New York on Monday, killing two and seriously wounding two others, left a note saying he hoped to burn down his neighborhood and kill as many people as possible, police said Tuesday.

    A charred body, believed to be his sister's, was found in the burned house she shared with him Tuesday, police said.

    William Spengler, 62, used a Bushmaster semiautomatic rifle, the same kind of weapon used in the assault on Sandy Hook Elementary School, Webster Police Chief Gerald Pickering said.

    "He was equipped to go to war," Chief Pickering said.

    The shooter, who was convicted of killing his grandmother decades ago, was found dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound hours later.
    Shooter who ambushed firefighters left note showing intent to burn, kill - CNN.com

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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    That's apples and oranges. There hasn't been a bar room massacre because no one has cared to go do it. Are you trying to say that it hasn't happened because of some fear that a random redneck might be packing?

    That's exactly what I'm saying. How else would you explain the fact that these shootings take place where everyone present is 99%, or even 100% guaranteed to be unarmed and defenseless? These clowns don't choose "gun free zones" as their killing field by accident. That's just a fact, brother. In actuallity, a bar room would be much better kill zone, as far as finding a massed target goes, not to mention the loud ass music would mask the shooters fire for the first several seconds, giving him a huge advantage.




    a random redneck might be packing?
    It seems you have your own racist issues to deal with.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Is that why less and less gun owners are buying more and more weapons? You need one to go with each of your "outfits"?
    Actually I'm starting to get scared that "gun nuts" ( and that is what you are called) are buying so many weapons because you are handing them out to criminals and psychopaths to try and blackmail the rest of us into buying some too. A self-fulfilling prophecy if ever heard one. For example who gave this maniac a Bushmaster? It wasn't you was it?



    Shooter who ambushed firefighters left note showing intent to burn, kill - CNN.com
    Only by Libbos who are actually stupid enough to think that pro-gunners are a part of some conspiracy to create more gun crime, in order to sell more guns.

    I would rather know what idiot thought this clown should only spend 17 years in prison for beating his mother to death with a claw hammer.

    Nevermind how he got the rifle...what in the HELL was he doing out of prison, or less than 6 feet below the surface of the Earth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's exactly what I'm saying. How else would you explain the fact that these shootings take place where everyone present is 99%, or even 100% guaranteed to be unarmed and defenseless? These clowns don't choose "gun free zones" as their killing field by accident. That's just a fact, brother. In actuallity, a bar room would be much better kill zone, as far as finding a massed target goes, not to mention the loud ass music would mask the shooters fire for the first several seconds, giving him a huge advantage.






    It seems you have your own racist issues to deal with.
    I am sure there have been attempted mass shootings in areas where people are well armed

    you don't hear about them because the shooter is killed before there are enough casualties for the press to have antigungasms over such stories

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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    I don't follow you. There is no talk of sweeping the streets or cleaning up gangs? I don't see how you get that at all. You couldn't squeeze anymore Americans into jail if you wanted to. Poor people who live in ghettos tend to resort to crime - no matter what race. Crime tends to lead to violence. The problem isn't exactly hidden.

    Fix the income disparity. Educate the poor better. Resolve the health care system's issues. Create better jobs.

    Non of those have anything to do with policing or crime policy, and every one of those would help lower the murder rate.
    A scumbag is a scumbag, no matter how good his health insurance is, how educated he is, or how good of a job he has. Most of these goofballs are too stupid, or too lazy to get an education, much less get a good job.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 4 dead in Blair Co. shooting; 3 troopers injured

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I am sure there have been attempted mass shootings in areas where people are well armed


    I'm sure there have been, as well. However, how many compared to schoolhouse shootings, or other gun free zones?

    you don't hear about them because the shooter is killed before there are enough casualties for the press to have antigungasms over such stories
    You make a great point; shootings in well armed free fire zones produce a lower body count and the shooters gets to room temperature much sooner than in gun free zones. It totally kills the anti-gunner-freaks argument down.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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