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    Re: Plan B from Outer Space

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Sorry, was the truth painful? Were you hoping the OP would lie to you to make you feel better? Well that is fox's job. You are looking at the wrong monitor, you have to watch the Tv for fox news to make you feel better and to pretend the world exists as you want it.

    HTH and HAND.
    No, I was trying to engage the original poster because of the comment about Plan B. But then some crazy person, who keeps posting the same thing on every post about Fox news and other nonsense, showed up. I DON'T WATCH FOX NEWS! Please try to engage someone who actually hold the values you accuse them of having and leave me alone.

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    Re: Boehner Cancels Tax Vote in Face of G.O.P. Revolt

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    Re: Boehner Cancels Tax Vote in Face of G.O.P. Revolt

    Imagine, some politicians did exactly what the campaigned on. No tax increase. Your move Mr President.

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    Re: Plan B' Vote Spiked In House In Major Setback For Boehner

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    House vote fails,


    - House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) failed to muscle a controversial fiscal cliff fallback through the House Thursday night, suddenly pulling the bill after spending almost a week on a plan that Democrats called a waste of time

    The failure to bring the measure to a vote kills Boehner's "Plan B" and moves the nation one large step closer to the so-called fiscal cliff looming on Jan. 1, when a combination of tax hikes and spending cuts are set to start kicking in. It also marks a major setback for Boehner, who was unable to marshal enough of his fractious, Tea Party-inspired members, even after he and other leaders had pledged earlier in the day that they would succeed.
    "The House did not take up the tax measure today because it did not have sufficient support from our members to pass," Boehner said in a statement. "Now it is up to the president to work with Senator Reid on legislation to avert the fiscal cliff. The House has already passed legislation to stop all of the January 1 tax rate increases and replace the sequester with responsible spending cuts that will begin to address our nation's crippling debt. The Senate must now act."

    'Plan B' Vote Spiked In House In Major Setback For Boehner
    The Plan B was simply a voodoo bill that defined a "compromise" on raising the taxes of all but addressed no spending cuts at all, and surely would never pass in the Senate. The trick now seems to be to decouple spending cuts from tax increases entirely. The original GOP "plan" was $3 in spending cuts for $1 in tax increases, then we got "the cliff", now Obama wants "balance" ($2 in tax increases now for $1 in "possible future" spending cuts), Boehner comes back with "lets just raise taxes a teeny, tiny bit on the very, very richest" and "talk about" spending later.

    These morons in DC, all of those congress critters, will decide, next week to pass a "kick the can down the road" bill and will cheer about "comming together" and "bipartisan support" and celebrate not reducing the defict but claiming to have "saved us" from the "fiscal cliff" - the funny thing about that, is that the "fiscal cliff" was also totally the work of bipartisan congress critters (the "stupid committee" deal). These DC morons now simply create the "crisis" (in August) and then pretend to save "us" from it (in December), all the while, continuing to borrow in our names and spend in their names. USA, USA, USA...
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    Re: Plan B' Vote Spiked In House In Major Setback For Boehner

    Uh, Plan B was the most recent proposal from Nancy Pelosi. Boehner threw it out there because Obama just flatly denied any other plan that was put in front of him... and Obama denied that one as well. Bipartisanship my a$$. Obama is not compromising, as he keeps saying he is doing. When presented with a plan crafted by his own top rep in the house he turned it down. What Boehner did was make it obvious that Obama is intentionally pushing us over the cliff and raising taxes on everyone, even though he STILL is saying he doesn't want to. Wake up people.

    I'm not at all surprised House Republicans turned it down, it was not at all what they wanted. Boehner went as far as he was willing to go, Obama said no. Game over.

    For any of you who can remember back that far, this same thing happened in the early Bush 43 days. Remember the partially privatized SS plan that was soundly beaten to death by the media? You know, the "Bush SS proposal"? The one he didn't structure or for that matter know much about? Yeah, that was the result of the findings by the Commisssion for Social Security Reform assembled by Clinton after he presented the so called Budget Surplus report, an example of the kind of fuzzy math we have grow accustomed to. But have a plan designed by a mixed committee ordered by a democrat and presented by a republican and it's BAD.

    Same thing here. A plan designed by a head democrat presented by a Republican, and OMG WE CAN'T DO THAT! Obama will refuse ANY plan put before him, and the House Republicans rejected Pelosi's plan. Are we surprised? Not really, but we'll play politics and partisan hackery to the death, because that's what our government is all about. And the "low information voters" (you know who you are) will watch their taxes go up (as planned) and will still blame it on the Republicans. See, that's the definition of idiots voting. You are being flatly lied to but you believe what you are told because the guy doing the lying has a nice smile and appeared on your favorite (non)news show.
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    Re: Boehner Cancels Tax Vote in Face of G.O.P. Revolt

    Quote Originally Posted by hfd View Post
    Imagine, some politicians did exactly what the campaigned on. No tax increase. Your move Mr President.

    I disagree. I don't remember any Republicans stating that they were trying to save tax breaks for the already wealthy. And then Boner got to say "Obama will be responsible for the largest tax increase in history." I just loved that as he stood there proudly like a gorilla thumping his chest and braying loudly. Hint: You pay down deficits with taxes. I'm for more taxes, less Military Offense spending, minor SS change, and let's kill those Corporate Welfare queens like Nuke power, fossil fuel subsidies, unneeded weapons systems, fake Renewable Energy programs and start promoting business on a local scale including small farms.

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    Re: Plan B' Vote Spiked In House In Major Setback For Boehner

    Looks more and more like that pay envelope is gonna be a bit lighter come 1/1/13. But, that's what the majority voted for. So be it.

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    Re: Plan B' Vote Spiked In House In Major Setback For Boehner

    Plan B was boehners plan...new poll out shows that the majority of republicans 53% believe the gop is being to extreme with fiscal cliff...the republicans are in trouble, not only with fiscal cliff negotiations but as a whole...the teaparty plan for the gop has flopped HUGELY but theres a few still trying to hang on.

    To me this entire election and these negotiations reenforce what ive felt along time..politicians being elected to national office once they get there dont have to do whats right for the country...only what their little district wants them to do to enable them to win re election..and thats WHATS WRONG WITH WASHINGTON...if they all had to answer to all americans then they would be more tuned into whats good for the country to get re elected than just their little district

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    Re: Boehner Cancels Tax Vote in Face of G.O.P. Revolt

    Quote Originally Posted by hfd View Post
    Imagine, some politicians did exactly what the campaigned on. No tax increase. Your move Mr President.
    It's a shame Romney/Ryan didn't win.

    Ryan knows the way to go forward is to gut entitlement programs like welfare, medicare, and social security.

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    Re: Plan B' Vote Spiked In House In Major Setback For Boehner

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast;1061274187[b
    ]Plan B was boehners plan[/b]...new poll out shows that the majority of republicans 53% believe the gop is being to extreme with fiscal cliff...the republicans are in trouble, not only with fiscal cliff negotiations but as a whole...the teaparty plan for the gop has flopped HUGELY but theres a few still trying to hang on.

    To me this entire election and these negotiations reenforce what ive felt along time..politicians being elected to national office once they get there dont have to do whats right for the country...only what their little district wants them to do to enable them to win re election..and thats WHATS WRONG WITH WASHINGTON...if they all had to answer to all americans then they would be more tuned into whats good for the country to get re elected than just their little district
    Do you even do any research or do you just blindly follow Obama's tweets?

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