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"I am appalled that somebody who is the nominee...would take that kind of position"
"A court took away a presidency"
"...the brother of a man running for president was the governor of the state..."
It's horrifying because Trump is blunt instead of making overt implications.
Imagine, some politicians did exactly what the campaigned on. No tax increase. Your move Mr President.
These morons in DC, all of those congress critters, will decide, next week to pass a "kick the can down the road" bill and will cheer about "comming together" and "bipartisan support" and celebrate not reducing the defict but claiming to have "saved us" from the "fiscal cliff" - the funny thing about that, is that the "fiscal cliff" was also totally the work of bipartisan congress critters (the "stupid committee" deal). These DC morons now simply create the "crisis" (in August) and then pretend to save "us" from it (in December), all the while, continuing to borrow in our names and spend in their names. USA, USA, USA...
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman
Uh, Plan B was the most recent proposal from Nancy Pelosi. Boehner threw it out there because Obama just flatly denied any other plan that was put in front of him... and Obama denied that one as well. Bipartisanship my a$$. Obama is not compromising, as he keeps saying he is doing. When presented with a plan crafted by his own top rep in the house he turned it down. What Boehner did was make it obvious that Obama is intentionally pushing us over the cliff and raising taxes on everyone, even though he STILL is saying he doesn't want to. Wake up people.
I'm not at all surprised House Republicans turned it down, it was not at all what they wanted. Boehner went as far as he was willing to go, Obama said no. Game over.
For any of you who can remember back that far, this same thing happened in the early Bush 43 days. Remember the partially privatized SS plan that was soundly beaten to death by the media? You know, the "Bush SS proposal"? The one he didn't structure or for that matter know much about? Yeah, that was the result of the findings by the Commisssion for Social Security Reform assembled by Clinton after he presented the so called Budget Surplus report, an example of the kind of fuzzy math we have grow accustomed to. But have a plan designed by a mixed committee ordered by a democrat and presented by a republican and it's BAD.
Same thing here. A plan designed by a head democrat presented by a Republican, and OMG WE CAN'T DO THAT! Obama will refuse ANY plan put before him, and the House Republicans rejected Pelosi's plan. Are we surprised? Not really, but we'll play politics and partisan hackery to the death, because that's what our government is all about. And the "low information voters" (you know who you are) will watch their taxes go up (as planned) and will still blame it on the Republicans. See, that's the definition of idiots voting. You are being flatly lied to but you believe what you are told because the guy doing the lying has a nice smile and appeared on your favorite (non)news show.
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I disagree. I don't remember any Republicans stating that they were trying to save tax breaks for the already wealthy. And then Boner got to say "Obama will be responsible for the largest tax increase in history." I just loved that as he stood there proudly like a gorilla thumping his chest and braying loudly. Hint: You pay down deficits with taxes. I'm for more taxes, less Military Offense spending, minor SS change, and let's kill those Corporate Welfare queens like Nuke power, fossil fuel subsidies, unneeded weapons systems, fake Renewable Energy programs and start promoting business on a local scale including small farms.
Looks more and more like that pay envelope is gonna be a bit lighter come 1/1/13. But, that's what the majority voted for. So be it.
Plan B was boehners plan...new poll out shows that the majority of republicans 53% believe the gop is being to extreme with fiscal cliff...the republicans are in trouble, not only with fiscal cliff negotiations but as a whole...the teaparty plan for the gop has flopped HUGELY but theres a few still trying to hang on.
To me this entire election and these negotiations reenforce what ive felt along time..politicians being elected to national office once they get there dont have to do whats right for the country...only what their little district wants them to do to enable them to win re election..and thats WHATS WRONG WITH WASHINGTON...if they all had to answer to all americans then they would be more tuned into whats good for the country to get re elected than just their little district
Do you even do any research or do you just blindly follow Obama's tweets?Originally Posted by lpast;1061274187[b