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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    No, we will not be "defensless". Join the military and learn something will you?
    I served in the US Army for twenty years. How about you?

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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    It does not surprise me that you have no understanding about our system of national governance. The House is not to be a rubber stamp for the President. They are a check upon the tyranny of the presidency.

    Believe as you wish. I am proud that the Tea Party Conservatives are men and women of courage and principle. Given your lean it makes sense that you do not recognize either.

    I hope that last night's victory signalled a revolt by the Tea Party Conservatives that will sweep Boehner and Cantor from power. I hope that last night was signal that Republicans will no longer go along with the massive theft this president is executing against the future generations of Americans who do not yet have a voice.

    If they are voted out as you believe then it does signal that this nation's future has been checkmated.

    My view is the opposite. Last night's victory by Tea Party Conservatives gives me great hope for our future. You can come along for the ride if you like. Unlike what's his name in the White House we won't make you sit in the back of the bus.
    Enjoy those T's while they last. They are at the end of their rope and their fates are sealed.

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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I served in the US Army for twenty years. How about you?
    Same, we wouldn't be defensless if those cuts happen. With many of the pork projects that are done in the name of defense spending such as an aircraft that is less effective than what it was supposed to replace. Why do we need more carriers? We don't.

    There are lots of things that can be cut without making us defensless (which is hyperbole).

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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Enjoy those T's while they last. They are at the end of their rope and their fates are sealed.
    I suppose we will find out. Won't we.

    Fighting and dying on our feet is far better than living in servitude on our knees.

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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Same, we wouldn't be defensless if those cuts happen. With many of the pork projects that are done in the name of defense spending such as an aircraft that is less effective than what it was supposed to replace. Why do we need more carriers? We don't.

    There are lots of things that can be cut without making us defensless (which is hyperbole).
    You don't for a moment think the directed "Green" parts of the defense budget will be cut do you? These are real cuts. We will have fewer Navy ships, less steaming time, we will have fewer Air Force flying squadrons with less flying time. We will have fewer Marines and less training time. We will have fewer Army Brigade Combat Teams and less training time.

    Yes. I completely disagree with your moment of sunshine. I lived through the Carter years and the peace dividend cuts of the Clinton years. Both hollowed out the military. Both caused deep, sustained damage to our ability to defend the nation. We paid for it the way we always pay for it. We paid in soldiers blood.

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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Everything needs to be on the table to get us out of this deficit. Not one issue should be omitted.

    Social Welfare and Defense Spending needs to be slashed. Unfortunately, taxes must go up to help revenue.

    There is no reason to have an 800 Billion annual budget on defense. None at all. We are far and away the biggest spenders on defense. It is far too much and we should cap it at around 200 Billion in the next five years.

    Fact is that we are in some dire straights here fiscally. We are all going to have to come to a realization that if we don't put everything on the table for cuts...we won't fix this problem.

    Foreign aid should be frozen immediately. We shouldn't give money to other nations while ours is in a deficit. I would love for that to be a constitutional amendment.

    We have to reduce the size and scope of government. There are far bureaucracies spending billions that we don't have, and that will come full circle one day.

    We cannot continue this path without facing real consequences such as hyper inflation.
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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    You don't for a moment think the directed "Green" parts of the defense budget will be cut do you? These are real cuts. We will have fewer Navy ships, less steaming time, we will have fewer Air Force flying squadrons with less flying time. We will have fewer Marines and less training time. We will have fewer Army Brigade Combat Teams and less training time.

    Yes. I completely disagree with your moment of sunshine. I lived through the Carter years and the peace dividend cuts of the Clinton years. Both hollowed out the military. Both caused deep, sustained damage to our ability to defend the nation. We paid for it the way we always pay for it. We paid in soldiers blood.
    A "hollowed out" military that fought 2 wars simultaneously? We spend over 60% of our budget on the military and it needs to stop. We are not the worlds policeman.

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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    You don't for a moment think the directed "Green" parts of the defense budget will be cut do you? These are real cuts. We will have fewer Navy ships, less steaming time, we will have fewer Air Force flying squadrons with less flying time. We will have fewer Marines and less training time. We will have fewer Army Brigade Combat Teams and less training time.

    Yes. I completely disagree with your moment of sunshine. I lived through the Carter years and the peace dividend cuts of the Clinton years. Both hollowed out the military. Both caused deep, sustained damage to our ability to defend the nation. We paid for it the way we always pay for it. We paid in soldiers blood.

    OMG the hyperbole from you is astounding. You act as though we are going to go down to ONE carrier, ONE fighter aircraft, etc.

    The defense budget is NOT A BLANK CHECK. There HAS to be cuts. Are you seriously saying that there should be NO cuts to defense spending?

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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    A "hollowed out" military that fought 2 wars simultaneously? We spend over 60% of our budget on the military and it needs to stop. We are not the worlds policeman.
    There is a timeline issue. Some things can be improved by an infusion of cash. I can remember having 10 training bullets per soldier per quarter. One does not remain proficient with one's weapons firing three rounds per month.

    Let's see. What is the total budget today? This was interesting: "Military spending: The military budget of the United States during FY 2011 was approximately $740 billion in expenses for the Department of Defense (DoD), $141 billion for veteran expenses, and $48 billion in expenses for the Department of Homeland Security, for a total of $929 billion.[37] The U.S. defense budget (excluding spending for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, Homeland Security, and Veteran's Affairs) is around 5% of GDP. Adding these other costs places defense spending between 6% and 7% of GDP. "

    Our government is spending 25% of GDP. Defense is 20-24% of the budget not 60%. You are uninformed or given your lean you may be using liberal math, a form of math I am uncomfortable with.

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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    OMG the hyperbole from you is astounding. You act as though we are going to go down to ONE carrier, ONE fighter aircraft, etc.

    The defense budget is NOT A BLANK CHECK. There HAS to be cuts. Are you seriously saying that there should be NO cuts to defense spending?
    There have already been cuts. Real cuts. Let's match the Defense Departments real cuts will real cuts across all government agencies and departments. Then let's talk again.

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