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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

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    She has not testified yet. Has she? I am not admitting that she will testify. I am acknowledging that she is scheduled to testify.
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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

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    What you fail to recognize again is total budget of the United States and the debt. Neither of which matter to you since Obama is in the WH. Deficits per year are over a trillion dollars, there are no spending cuts and our current debt exceeds our yearly GDP. Printing and borrowing money are going to cost the American people significantly and Obama has no plans to put 23 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers back to work full time paying taxes.

    Your total ignorance of the budget process, debt, and deficit are quite telling. Here are the line item budget items so please show me which line item expense is less this year than last? In addition please note the debt service and tell me how that helps the American people?

    Expenses (2011)

    Defense 708.3
    International Affairs 45.7
    Gen. Science, Space 30.4
    Energy 12.1
    Natural resources/env 43.3
    Agriculture 22.6
    Commerce/Housing Cr -13.8
    Transportation 93.2
    Community Dev 24.9
    Education/Train/Social 98.0
    Health 372.7
    Medicare 485.7
    Income Security 599.3
    Social Security 730.8
    Veterans Benefits 127.2
    Justice 56.7
    General Govt. 20.7
    Net Interest 227.1


    Total 3684.9
    And here would be your number, sans war) ten years from 2011, all things being the same.

    $total=$2911.00. you can also deduct $600 billion from that number,per year, starting in 2013 for the tax increases on the affluent.That brings it to...
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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Show me the cuts.
    How about if Romney shows you the cuts?

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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    And here would be your number, sans war) ten years from 2011, all things being the same.

    $total=$2911.00. you can also deduct $600 billion from that number,per year, starting in 2013 for the tax increases on the affluent.That brings it to...
    Tax increases are not spending cuts and tax increases don't put 23 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers back to work. When you grow up you will understand that. In addition you love throwing aroudn what you think are big numbers but 600 billion over 10 years doesn't make a dent in the yearly deficit. Obama sure has exactly what he wants in people like you.

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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Tax increases are not spending cuts and tax increases don't put 23 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers back to work. When you grow up you will understand that. In addition you love throwing aroudn what you think are big numbers but 600 billion over 10 years doesn't make a dent in the yearly deficit. Obama sure has exactly what he wants in people like you.


    I Hey OM, remember we were talking about the debt when i resurrected this dead thread.

    Stopping the war and the ďthe tax increases on the affluent "that they were so kind as to kick into the pot played old hyde with the debt didn't it?

    I can see your concern though; when the populace sees the debt being reduced by dems and looks at the only viable option, the reps; what do they see there? Voter suppression, self deport the brown people and if women get pregnant when raped they shoulda pushed the hidden anti pregnant button.Not much else in the bag of tricks that I can see, maybe rush,the drugster can come up with something to save the grand ole party.
    The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say

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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post


    I Hey OM, remember we were talking about the debt when i resurrected this dead thread.

    Stopping the war and the “the tax increases on the affluent "that they were so kind as to kick into the pot played old hyde with the debt didn't it?

    I can see your concern though; when the populace sees the debt being reduced by dems and looks at the only viable option, the reps; what do they see there? Voter suppression, self deport the brown people and if women get pregnant when raped they shoulda pushed the hidden anti pregnant button.Not much else in the bag of tricks that I can see, maybe rush,the drugster can come up with something to save the grand ole party.
    This is a waste of time as facts don't matter to you, the fourth largest expense to the taxpayer is debt service and "your" President has added more debt in 4 years than any other President in History added in 8. There are 23 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers not paying much in Federal Income Taxes yet you believe 60 billion a year is the answer? There is nothing brilliant in your argument as once again you show how intellectually dishonest you and all other liberals are.

    There are no cuts proposed by this President nor is there any plan to put those 23 million back to work full time. You either have a job or are on your parent's payroll thus no interest in actually solving the problems we have today. Raise taxes, increase spending, become more dependent on the Federal Govt. seems to be right out of the liberal playbook. One of these days you are going to realize just what a fool liberalism has made out of you.

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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    This is a waste of time as facts don't matter to you, the fourth largest expense to the taxpayer is debt service and "your" President has added more debt in 4 years than any other President in History added in 8. There are 23 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers not paying much in Federal Income Taxes yet you believe 60 billion a year is the answer? There is nothing brilliant in your argument as once again you show how intellectually dishonest you and all other liberals are.

    There are no cuts proposed by this President nor is there any plan to put those 23 million back to work full time. You either have a job or are on your parent's payroll thus no interest in actually solving the problems we have today. Raise taxes, increase spending, become more dependent on the Federal Govt. seems to be right out of the liberal playbook. One of these days you are going to realize just what a fool liberalism has made out of you.



    I showed you how we can cut the debt down to size but you keep attempting to derail on to our nations unemployed and assorted ADD HOMís about my parentís payroll. Whatcha think about the money we will NOT BE SPENDING on the Afghan war?WHATCHA think we should be doing with the $600 hundred bill per year that the top % so graciously have given us?

    By the way,from my profile.

    Issue time: 04-27-08 09:48 PM
    Issue reason: in marine corps from 6/66-7/70

    .....my parents died some time ago.Note the bolded part.Guess where i was while you were getting settled into your cubicle on the CORP ladder?
    The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say

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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    I showed you how we can cut the debt down to size but you keep attempting to derail on to our nations unemployed and assorted ADD HOM’s about my parent’s payroll. Whatcha think about the money we will NOT BE SPENDING on the Afghan war?WHATCHA think we should be doing with the $600 hundred bill per year that the top % so graciously have given us?

    By the way,from my profile.

    Issue time: 04-27-08 09:48 PM
    Issue reason: in marine corps from 6/66-7/70

    .....my parents died some time ago.Note the bolded part.Guess where i was while you were getting settled into your cubicle on the CORP ladder?
    Just goes to show that with age doesn't come any basic understanding of debt, deficit, or in your case liberalism. Not spending money on the Afghanistan war will be great but will be offset by the loss of tax revenue as those returning soldiers don't have jobs to return to or the 23 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers still not paying much in Federal Income taxes. Keep buying the liberal rhetoric, keep believing that our debt is due to the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars. Obama and the other liberal elites love having people like you buying their bull****.

    600 billion a year that you are going to extract from the rich? Where do you get that information? It is 600 billion over 10 years, 60 billion a year. Again, just goes to show how brainwashed you are.

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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Just goes to show that with age doesn't come any basic understanding of debt, deficit, or in your case liberalism. Not spending money on the Afghanistan war will be great but will be offset by the loss of tax revenue .
    What loss of tax revenue? Military personal in a combat zone do not pay income taxes.

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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    [QUOTE=Conservative;1061371082. Not spending money on the Afghanistan war will be great but will be offset by the loss of tax revenue as those returning soldiers don't have jobs to return to or the 23 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers still not paying much in Federal Income taxes. Keep buying the liberal rhetoric, keep believing that our debt is due to the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars.

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    Like Winston stated troops IN combat zones pay no federal taxes.The biggest driver of our debt is the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq,and the 01 and 03 wrongheaded tax cuts in the middle of said wars, plus Medicare prescription drug benefits.According to Bloomberg News those boondoggles added $3.4 trillion to our nation’s debt.
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