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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    There are issues well beyond how money is spent that is determined by elections.

    Also, I don't know if I really agree that spending and economic policy is determined by what people vote or believe. I think if anything there's a lot of data that suggests there is a wide gap between what most voters believe should be done and what is actually done. The deal that seems to be coming out of this fiscal cliff seems to be completely the opposite of what voters believe should be the result of any deal.
    They are getting exactly what they want. The American population has flipped from one of self reliance and responsibility, to one that is now dependent on government. It's all about freebees, the more freebees you promise you will get elected. What you are seeing now Obama wants only tax increases that will at the most bring in around 600 billion over 10 yrs. He is borrowing and spending 1.2 trillion a yr, now he will continue to borrowing and spend 1.2 trillion as that 60 billion he gets in tax increases will go toward more freebees.
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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    They are getting exactly what they want. The American population has flipped from one of self reliance and responsibility, to one that is now dependent on government. It's all about freebees, the more freebees you promise you will get elected. What you are seeing now Obama wants only tax increases that will at the most bring in around 600 billion over 10 yrs. He is borrowing and spending 1.2 trillion a yr, now he will continue to borrowing and spend 1.2 trillion as that 60 billion he gets in tax increases will go toward more freebees.
    Looks like you got the ole crystal ball outa hock eh?
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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    They are getting exactly what they want. The American population has flipped from one of self reliance and responsibility, to one that is now dependent on government. It's all about freebees, the more freebees you promise you will get elected. What you are seeing now Obama wants only tax increases that will at the most bring in around 600 billion over 10 yrs. He is borrowing and spending 1.2 trillion a yr, now he will continue to borrowing and spend 1.2 trillion as that 60 billion he gets in tax increases will go toward more freebees.
    Yes...those self reliant boomers wedged between those "wanting freebies" generations that preceeded them and came after them.
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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Yes...those self reliant boomers wedged between those "wanting freebies" generations that preceeded them and came after them.
    Wonder whats better for the citizens of a country, "wanting freebies" are wanting war?
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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    They are getting exactly what they want. The American population has flipped from one of self reliance and responsibility, to one that is now dependent on government. It's all about freebees, the more freebees you promise you will get elected. What you are seeing now Obama wants only tax increases that will at the most bring in around 600 billion over 10 yrs. He is borrowing and spending 1.2 trillion a yr, now he will continue to borrowing and spend 1.2 trillion as that 60 billion he gets in tax increases will go toward more freebees.
    Yes, continue to lie and distort our position and see if it works for you as well as it did in November.

    No, really, I want you to do it. The only institution we need to regain control of is the House.
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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    Whipeee !For CORP WELFARE to protect us against an imaginary enemy.Butt gotta cut grannys SS and Medicare to the bone.
    The only corporate welfare needed is for those in power who've manufactured and pepertuated the anti-private sector anti-rich propaganda to dissappear completely.

    Just go back to your brownstone or row house and live the rest of your miserable lives without pushing your bankrupt ideology on the rest of us.

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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    Looks like you got the ole crystal ball outa hock eh?
    Maybe you can point to a single cut in this cliff thing. In fact today he said he's raising taxes on the rich once again. Tax, borrow, spend, freebee liberals. Obama and his balanced approach it tax, tax and tax some more.
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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Yes, continue to lie and distort our position and see if it works for you as well as it did in November.

    No, really, I want you to do it. The only institution we need to regain control of is the House.
    Your positing is crystal clear, tax, borrow, spend and freebees. Now tell me where I'm wrong.
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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Yes...those self reliant boomers wedged between those "wanting freebies" generations that preceeded them and came after them.
    Ever sense the end of WWII you liberals have changed this nation to one of self reliance and responsibility, to one that is now dependent on government. It's all about freebees, the more freebees you promise you will get elected. Now maybe you can tell me what is Obama cutting again. There is nothing, he wants to spend more. Liberal Obama, tax, borrow, spend, and freebees. Yeah drowning this country in debt is the right course for destruction, no different than Spain, Italy, Greece. Soon you'll have the American people screaming in the streets "I demand my entitlements"
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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Ever sense the end of WWII you liberals have changed this nation to one of self reliance and responsibility, to one that is now dependent on government. It's all about freebees, the more freebees you promise you will get elected. Now maybe you can tell me what is Obama cutting again. There is nothing, he wants to spend more. Liberal Obama, tax, borrow, spend, and freebees. Yeah drowning this country in debt is the right course for destruction, no different than Spain, Italy, Greece. Soon you'll have the American people screaming in the streets "I demand my entitlements"
    This part of your post is spot on.
    "Ever sense the end of WWII you liberals have changed this nation to one of self reliance and responsibility, "


    What freebees are you talking about that will match Corp freebees that the repubs give away?
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