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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

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    The House can, and should, defund all of the leftist organizations. Then it should begin on all of the extra-constitutional agencies and departments. We can fix this. Yes we can!
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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    I admit, i was wrong.I was using old data,here is data for Dec.19,2012, that shows THE COST NOW EXCEEDS $223 MILLION DOLLARS PER instead of the $134.5 million that i quoted.

    That being said,i was outraged at the old price but this number leaves me flabbergasted. WTF do we need these for?WhOTF is going to attack us that we need this kinda planes to defend ourselves?The talaban?The mullahs in Iran?Are the crazy one, in N. Korea that shoots missiles and hopes that it will make it off the launch pad?
    That is what happens when the buy is cut in half or by two-thirds. The cost per plane goes up as the non-recurring engineering costs are spread across far fewer aircraft. We will always have threats to be concerned about. Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, the usual suspects.

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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    That is what happens when the buy is cut in half or by two-thirds. The cost per plane goes up as the non-recurring engineering costs are spread across far fewer aircraft. We will always have threats to be concerned about. Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, the usual suspects.
    In other words invent a boogyman now that the wars are winding down eh?In this case recycle the old ones.
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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Earlier I wrote, "That is what happens when the buy is cut in half or by two-thirds. The cost per plane goes up as the non-recurring engineering costs are spread across far fewer aircraft. We will always have threats to be concerned about. Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, the usual suspects."

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    In other words invent a boogyman now that the wars are winding down eh?In this case recycle the old ones.
    Like it or not we will always have enemies. Their interests and our interests will differ enough. You are free to bury your head in the sand.

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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Earlier I wrote, "That is what happens when the buy is cut in half or by two-thirds. The cost per plane goes up as the non-recurring engineering costs are spread across far fewer aircraft. We will always have threats to be concerned about. Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, the usual suspects."


    Like it or not we will always have enemies. Their interests and our interests will differ enough. You are free to bury your head in the sand.

    Why would China attack their best customer?

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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Um, the Pentagon has the largest share, far and away, of the discretionary budget.....and with 25% of their budget UNACCOUNTED for, don't even start whining about SNAP. You have no argument about "not addressing" anything....at all.




    PS...note that Vet payouts should be in the military budget along with much of "Science"......and SNAP is in the Ag sliver.

    That is one pretty chart you have there....Can you tell me using that chart, how much of that spending is constitutionally mandated?
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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Earlier I wrote, "That is what happens when the buy is cut in half or by two-thirds. The cost per plane goes up as the non-recurring engineering costs are spread across far fewer aircraft. We will always have threats to be concerned about. Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, the usual suspects."


    Like it or not we will always have enemies. Their interests and our interests will differ enough. You are free to bury your head in the sand.
    So...explain how building, what ultimitly will more than likely be a trillion dollar fighter, will protect us from
    "Russia,China, Iran, North Korea ".

    Russia would shoot missals at us, China..would attack the country that they hold so much debt for?Their best Customer?Hardly.

    Iran?the mullahs that are just developing nukes.Why would a third of a $billion dollar strike fighter be needed to deter something that be taken care of with a few missile from and aircraft carrier that we have sitting in the gulf now.

    North Korea... still eaten tree bark.
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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Why would China attack their best customer?
    Hegemony over the Pacific.

    They have spent a great deal of time over the last 40 years working out how to defeat us. One can never tell why the war will come. The best way to bring it on is to be unprepared for it.

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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That is one pretty chart you have there....Can you tell me using that chart, how much of that spending is constitutionally mandated?
    The Pentagon and Ag budgets are not part of the non-discretionary budget.

    On the red-herring scale, your comment goes off the chart.

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    Re: G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    So...explain how building, what ultimitly will more than likely be a trillion dollar fighter, will protect us from
    "Russia,China, Iran, North Korea ".

    Russia would shoot missals at us, China..would attack the country that they hold so much debt for?Their best Customer?Hardly.

    Iran?the mullahs that are just developing nukes.Why would a third of a $billion dollar strike fighter be needed to deter something that be taken care of with a few missile from and aircraft carrier that we have sitting in the gulf now.

    North Korea... still eaten tree bark.
    Broaden your horizons just a bit. Not every war leads to nuclear exchanges.
    The best way to prevent wards from starting or to end them on terms favorable to us is to be prepared for them. All wars are "come as you are" events. Air superiority gives all of our forces a substantial edge on real battlefields. The underlying technologies for offense and defense are not standing still.

    This weapons platform is like a handful of silver bullets. One might not use them everyday. But when one needs them nothing else will do.

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