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    Re: Firearm Found Inside Mpls. School Staff Memberís Locker

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    LOL!!!

    Yeah...you should try to pass that line of BS on the lady who took her gun to school. What was stopping HER from standing up to protect the kids?
    Her own stupidity for starters, can't defend too many kids when they arrest you for breaking the law, as with illegal immigrants- what part of illegal don't you understand?

    But enough deflection, either 'conservatives' stand up to protect and that means going to the school administrations and working to set-up semi-retired combat vets with schedules to show the liberals what good can come from reasonable folks with firearms.

    Orrrrr we quit bitching about paying taxes to hire folks that will do the protecting of our schools. You don't want to get a shovel and maintain our highways, we pay taxes for that.

    Time to quit trying to do everything on the cheap and claim lowering taxes boosts the economy. Lowering taxes starves the system and it can't provide the services we suddenly discover would have been nice to have had inplace PRIOR to the mass murder in Conn.

    Not Principles with M4s as one 'conservative' politician claimed. Not middle aged teachers with a bare minimum of training, not 'employees' with a wheel gun illegally in her locker...

    A really thought out PROFESSIONAL plan that won't be cheap and won't be done by a hodge podge of amateurs which is what 90% of the teachers would be.

    'Conservatives' are just like everyone else- have someone else do the heavy lifting, the talk of what one CCW could have done rings hollow because 99% of the CCWs out there are not really interested in anything more than protecting their own lives (nothing wrong with self preservation) and seem more interested in using the fig leaf of protecting society to cover firearm ownership... (as long as the firearm owners are up front about it, nothing wrong there either)

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    Re: Firearm Found Inside Mpls. School Staff Memberís Locker

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    Another law abiding citizen. She knew she didn't care and did it anyhow. WHo else thinks like that.
    I do. I just don't tell.

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    Re: Firearm Found Inside Mpls. School Staff Memberís Locker

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    And yet these 'conservatives' are drafting bills to require teachers to carry weapons, are demanding some one else do something, and when offered the opportunity to do just what you say, to step up and protect, they demur. Can't take advantage of the opportunity to protect our schools from the couch.
    Do you recognize the difference between allowing, or even encouraging someone to do the right thing, and demanding it of them?

    If people are going to shoot up kids in schools very soon we may discover the best places are where the goofy liberals live. What could be more just?

    Rather than sacrificing our children you will get to sacrifice your own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Her own stupidity for starters, can't defend too many kids when they arrest you for breaking the law, as with illegal immigrants- what part of illegal don't you understand?

    Wrong. It was the "no guns allowed" rule that stopped her.

    But enough deflection, either 'conservatives' stand up to protect and that means going to the school administrations and working to set-up semi-retired combat vets with schedules to show the liberals what good can come from reasonable folks with firearms.

    Again, lack of people willing to stand up is not the problem. Bleeding-heart-fear-of-guns rules are the problem.

    Orrrrr we quit bitching about paying taxes to hire folks that will do the protecting of our schools. You don't want to get a shovel and maintain our highways, we pay taxes for that.

    Time to quit trying to do everything on the cheap and claim lowering taxes boosts the economy. Lowering taxes starves the system and it can't provide the services we suddenly discover would have been nice to have had inplace PRIOR to the mass murder in Conn.

    Deflecting to taxes now, are we?

    Not Principles with M4s as one 'conservative' politician claimed. Not middle aged teachers with a bare minimum of training, not 'employees' with a wheel gun illegally in her locker...

    Now you are selling people short. What makes you think properly trained Principals, teachers, etc are any less capable of defending their students than anyone else?

    A really thought out PROFESSIONAL plan that won't be cheap and won't be done by a hodge podge of amateurs which is what 90% of the teachers would be.

    So, tell me...who is advocating for a professional plan? Conservatives? Or liberals?

    'Conservatives' are just like everyone else- have someone else do the heavy lifting, the talk of what one CCW could have done rings hollow because 99% of the CCWs out there are not really interested in anything more than protecting their own lives (nothing wrong with self preservation) and seem more interested in using the fig leaf of protecting society to cover firearm ownership... (as long as the firearm owners are up front about it, nothing wrong there either)
    Conservatives are definitely not like liberals. Especially liberals like you who think taking guns from everyone is the best course of action.

    I know you are just having fun here...but your disingenuous course of discussion is getting tiresome.
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    Re: Firearm Found Inside Mpls. School Staff Memberís Locker

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    Another law abiding citizen. She knew she didn't care and did it anyhow. WHo else thinks like that.
    This woman thought like that.

    Last edited by dirtpoorchris; 12-21-12 at 11:40 PM.
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    Re: Firearm Found Inside Mpls. School Staff Memberís Locker

    Quote Originally Posted by smalltime View Post
    Or.......
    You could lend a little bit of perspective on life:
    Not quite.

    Those guards are almost always Israeli citizens coming off of their mandatory service and are hired as a contractor from an independent firm (yes, I've been there and talked to several of them). They are not there to protect kids from domestic shooters, but to protect them from the Arab terrorists who got past the checkpoints and walls. It's not the same thing. They are in a sense a backup layer of protection against Arab terrorists. And when you look at the weapons they carry, it's not really practical in the confines of a school. Plus, it's horribly expensive to keep them around all the time.

    Furthermore, these guards are not dealing with a society that has rampant civilian gun use. Israel Society has far stricter gun control laws then America. So in a sense, the only real threat they'd face from a domestic shooter is a gun with a pistol. They are there to protect against Arab Terrorists. Not domestic shooters.
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    Re: Firearm Found Inside Mpls. School Staff Memberís Locker

    didn't this teacher get the memo?.... school children are not allowed to be protected by good people with guns.... they are only allowed to be gunned down by bad people with guns.

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    Re: Firearm Found Inside Mpls. School Staff Memberís Locker

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    This woman thought like that.

    Love it. just love it.
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    Re: Firearm Found Inside Mpls. School Staff Memberís Locker

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    The way I see it, this staff member made two mistakes:

    1. She violated school policy regarding guns on campus.

    While I don't condone her action, I can understand the fear that made her do this.

    2. She told a teacher she had a gun.

    If she would have kept silent, nobody would have known the gun was there...until some 20 year old nutjob came into the school with evil intent. Then she might be considered a hero.


    On the other hand, that mother who had a "little mini-breakdown" really needs to get a grip on life.
    I don't see a problem with anything but the dummy having a "little mini-breakdown", and the snitch.
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    Re: Firearm Found Inside Mpls. School Staff Memberís Locker

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Not quite.

    Those guards are almost always Israeli citizens coming off of their mandatory service and are hired as a contractor from an independent firm (yes, I've been there and talked to several of them). They are not there to protect kids from domestic shooters, but to protect them from the Arab terrorists who got past the checkpoints and walls. It's not the same thing. They are in a sense a backup layer of protection against Arab terrorists. And when you look at the weapons they carry, it's not really practical in the confines of a school. Plus, it's horribly expensive to keep them around all the time.

    Furthermore, these guards are not dealing with a society that has rampant civilian gun use. Israel Society has far stricter gun control laws then America. So in a sense, the only real threat they'd face from a domestic shooter is a gun with a pistol. They are there to protect against Arab Terrorists. Not domestic shooters.
    So you think its okay for teachers to carry guns to stop brown people with turbans but not white dudes? Does the turban and the accent make them that much more dangerous?
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