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    Re: Bin Laden film attacked for 'perpetuating torture myth'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That silliness hasn't worked in the past and don't work now. I've linked enough how much of that is out of context. Sorry.

    Can't live up to the truth can you....Demo's were all about screaming about Saddam's WMD's and couldn't give the authority to Bush fast enough to invade, until it became politically expedient to oppose it, then like the disingenuous liars they are they flipped on a dime, and you carry their water...
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    Re: Bin Laden film attacked for 'perpetuating torture myth'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Can't live up to the truth can you....Demo's were all about screaming about Saddam's WMD's and couldn't give the authority to Bush fast enough to invade, until it became politically expedient to oppose it, then like the disingenuous liars they are they flipped on a dime, and you carry their water...
    J, we've been here before. We can read Kerry saying clear Saddam did not meet the threat level and that he fight Bush if he went in unilateral. We can put those words in context and time period. We can out republican votes versus democrat votes. But supporters have never been honest about this.

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    Re: Bin Laden film attacked for 'perpetuating torture myth'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    J, we've been here before. We can read Kerry saying clear Saddam did not meet the threat level and that he fight Bush if he went in unilateral. We can put those words in context and time period. We can out republican votes versus democrat votes. But supporters have never been honest about this.

    21 (42%) of 50 Democratic senators voted against the resolution: Sens. Akaka (D-HI), Bingaman (D-NM), Boxer (D-CA), Byrd (D-WV), Conrad (D-ND), Corzine (D-NJ), Dayton (D-MN), Durbin (D-IL), Feingold (D-WI), Graham (D-FL), Inouye (D-HI), Kennedy (D-MA), Leahy (D-VT), Levin (D-MI), Mikulski (D-MD), Murray (D-WA), Reed (D-RI), Sarbanes (D-MD), Stabenow (D-MI), Wellstone (D-MN), and Wyden (D-OR).

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    Hmmm...I don't see Kerry's name as voting against the AUMF... Why do you suppose that is? After all you said this...

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    We can read Kerry saying clear Saddam did not meet the threat level and that he fight Bush if he went in unilateral.
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    Re: Bin Laden film attacked for 'perpetuating torture myth'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hmmm...I don't see Kerry's name as voting against the AUMF... Why do you suppose that is? After all you said this...
    Yes, his name was, with his statement. Again stuff we've covered before.

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    Re: Bin Laden film attacked for 'perpetuating torture myth'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes, his name was, with his statement. Again stuff we've covered before.

    Oh I see, so he voted for the AUMF, but made a statement that he was against it.... come on man, You're going to have to do better....
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    Re: Bin Laden film attacked for 'perpetuating torture myth'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh I see, so he voted for the AUMF, but made a statement that he was against it.... come on man, You're going to have to do better....
    Again, we've covered this ground. He Mae a clear statement. You've seen it before.

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    Re: Bin Laden film attacked for 'perpetuating torture myth'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again, we've covered this ground. He Mae a clear statement. You've seen it before.
    Was that before or after he voted to give Bush the authority to invade Iraq?
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    Re: Bin Laden film attacked for 'perpetuating torture myth'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Was that before or after he voted to give Bush the authority to invade Iraq?
    As he was doing it. He tried to clarify what he meant by the vote. Referenced Bush keeping his word, silly fellow. But again, you've seen it before.

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    Re: Bin Laden film attacked for 'perpetuating torture myth'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    As he was doing it. He tried to clarify what he meant by the vote. Referenced Bush keeping his word, silly fellow. But again, you've seen it before.
    That's impressive, saying one thing as you vote the opposite way...And you bought it?...:
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    Re: Bin Laden film attacked for 'perpetuating torture myth'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That's impressive, saying one thing as you vote the opposite way...And you bought it?...:
    Depends on what you mean by bought. He played. Political game, as folks speaking out had lost their seats, but his statement is clear

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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