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Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

How do you know he stole anything, could he not have told his mom he's borrowing them, and she said OK. Then he killed her. It's not illegal to borrow a car, or a gun.

In what universe does someone just say "can I borrow your gun?"

The only time I even allow an individual to touch my weapons is with no clip and none in the chamber - and that is even with people who I know own weapons...

Anyone who owns a gun knows damn well you just don't let people "borrow" them like pencils.
 
Besides, even if the kid was given the guns - that doesn't make him legally authorized to handle, carry or shoot those weapons.

Also, if his mom just gave him HER GUNS then why the hell did he shoot her?
 
Yeah Obama wants to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. But what Obama doesn't know is that all these mass murders were not committed by people with felony convictions. They were committed by nut cases, crazy people with screws loose.

And do you have any information to support your assertion? Nope, but that won't stop you from believing something you literally made up seconds ago like its gospel.
 
IMHO, Joe Biden would probably find great difficultly organizing a gang-bang in a Thai brothel....
 
How do you know he stole anything, could he not have told his mom he's borrowing them, and she said OK. Then he killed her. It's not illegal to borrow a car, or a gun.
it has been reported that she was asleep when he shot her in the head 4 times with a .22 caliber rifle.
 
Good call, Mr. President.

Joe Biden is ideal for this.

Also, IMO, the tone of the OP is disrespectful in the wake of the tragedy. This country is crying out for an honest common sense discussion, senators with A+ NRA ratings have said everything should be on the table.

There seems a reluctance from the extreme view to not even open the door to talking and sharing ideas. This is not going away, so bring your best ideas to the table or be left out.

I think the vast majority of average hunters and gun owners will never notice the pragmatic changes. If anything, it will make hunting season safer for them by eliminating people who shouldn't have had guns in the first place (felons, domestic abusers, dishonorable discharges) The first step should be to get the NICS database up to date and accurate, especially military records. I'm sure every hunter knows of someone who doesn't follow safety procedures and is a little sketchy to begin with. Should something show up in the record that was overlooked, it's important that local LE pay them a visit and enforce the laws already on the books.
 
Get the mob emotionally riled up in a lather

Take a poll

Convince people to give up their Second Amendment Rights

Profit

Wow you are good isnt that what the NRA has been doing for 4 plus years now with Obama? I think so!
 
it is not a matter of unlimited gun ownership or unregulated guns. I am not for that by any means.

I am however in favor of having a proper, unpoliticized discussion about how people should use their gun rights. And this can only be done if politicians stay out and let technocrats handle the issue and bring a raport that answers the following question: How to keep maximum availability to americans to exercise their 2nd amendment right while at the same time keeping society safer. No politician, Obama, Biden, Boehner, Rahm Emanuel, etc can do that. Why? There are many reasons why but the chief reason is because they are a idiots. And I am not using a slang version of the word idiot, I am using idiot with its real true meaning of people with insufficient mental faculties despite being perfectly healthy.

Only intelligent, technocrat oriented people can come up with a solution to that question. And having politicians thrown into the mix to get political points won't do it. It is a right of americans and it cannot be politicized and have people take stands on the issue.

I can see your point here I would have rather you said "the guys are paid for their position" because after all they are politicians and thats what they do. I would go along with that. However, thats a ver very short list we are dealing with here.
 
You know, if we're all just caring about safety and wanting to get rid of unnecessary deaths.
Why haven't we started with more alcohol control?

Around 40k people die, every year because of some alcohol related causes (disease, accident, etc.)
 
Good call, Mr. President.

Joe Biden is ideal for this.

Also, IMO, the tone of the OP is disrespectful in the wake of the tragedy. This country is crying out for an honest common sense discussion, senators with A+ NRA ratings have said everything should be on the table.

There seems a reluctance from the extreme view to not even open the door to talking and sharing ideas. This is not going away, so bring your best ideas to the table or be left out.

I think the vast majority of average hunters and gun owners will never notice the pragmatic changes. If anything, it will make hunting season safer for them by eliminating people who shouldn't have had guns in the first place (felons, domestic abusers, dishonorable discharges) The first step should be to get the NICS database up to date and accurate, especially military records. I'm sure every hunter knows of someone who doesn't follow safety procedures and is a little sketchy to begin with. Should something show up in the record that was overlooked, it's important that local LE pay them a visit and enforce the laws already on the books.

I wouldn't put money on the majority of gun owners not noticing "pragmatic" changes if I were you.

i've seen thousands of folks who slipped up in safety procedures... the proper response is not to call the cops on them, but to correct them on their procedures.... but then again, I don't want people disarmed, so that probably colors my response.
 
You know, if we're all just caring about safety and wanting to get rid of unnecessary deaths.
Why haven't we started with more alcohol control?

Around 40k people die, every year because of some alcohol related causes (disease, accident, etc.)

been there.. done that... it failed... as prohibition generally does.
 
You'd think these people would learn that regarding firearms, but apparently, because most people aren't "social shooters" prohibition of firearms becomes acceptable.

it interesting how fast lessons from history go right out the window... an usually, it's otherwise intelligent folks putting on the blinders...it's all very odd to me.
 
Well, I'm feeling good now. Joe Biden is in charge. BTW: How do you control evil?
 
it interesting how fast lessons from history go right out the window... an usually, it's otherwise intelligent folks putting on the blinders...it's all very odd to me.

Most of the reasons given to ban firearms are directly transferred over to alcohol.
Yet people would be up in arms over another alcohol prohibition.
 
IMHO, Joe Biden would probably find great difficultly organizing a gang-bang in a Thai brothel....
Believe it or not, that's not the assignment he was given by President Obama. :roll:
 
The liberal zealots scoffed at the idea that Obama would attempt to implement any form of gun control during his second term in office. They also disparaged those who disagreed with them. The funny yet sad thing is they believed each other. :notlook:
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In what universe does someone just say "can I borrow your gun?"

The only time I even allow an individual to touch my weapons is with no clip and none in the chamber - and that is even with people who I know own weapons...

Anyone who owns a gun knows damn well you just don't let people "borrow" them like pencils.

Always fun to see some folks claim mad skills in killing but refer to a weapon having a clip. I have routinely let my FAMILY use my firearms. I have routinely lent my rifles to others while hunting feral hogs, introducing them to long range marksmanship as well as my 45 to folks wanting to see what pistol shooting is like.

I attempt to introduce as many folks to the safe and fun use of firearms as opposed to some freakish paranoid possession of them.

But to each their own.
 
Never let a crisis go to waste. Obama is attempting to strike while the iron is hot and has put his buffoon VP out as a puppet so obama can pull the strings and Biden can take the heat. Here we go again, another shooting another attempt to circumvent the 2nd amendment, same S*** different day.


President Obama on Wednesday tapped Vice President Biden to lead an administration-wide effort looking at gun control and other measures in the wake of the Connecticut school shooting last week.
"The fact that this problem is complex can no longer be an excuse for doing nothing," Obama said.
The move marks the first concrete step by the White House toward crafting new firearms restrictions.


Read more: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting | Fox News

"New policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting." Sounds to me that it could include mental health, because it is a mental health problem. You're just trying to sound like a Republican and imply that Obama has been trying to take away our guns. Quite a stretch, don't you think? It is a mental health issue and my guess is it will be a mental health solution, plus ending 100 round clips, assault weapons, and perhaps another rational option.
 
Gun Control Polls Shift After Tragic Shootings But Party Affiliation Is Key

I think a good number of people want to look at tighter gun control laws. So you are wrong here. Also he wants to look at other areas where we can improve. So our President is doing his job. I am sick to death of hearing about the 2nd amendment and how it give right to unlimited gun ownership. Plus ask any rational person why they need a 30 or 100 clip and the best they can come up with is maybe target practice. Bottom line the President is doing his job. I guess he had the pusle of right wing America more than most of us thought. Cling to guns and religion, and that scares the crap out of a majority of Americans

What rational person needs a car that goes 200 mph, Ferraris should be banned. As long as you follow the law, you should not be punished for your possessions.

Since everyone who commits mass murder is crazy, lets just lock up everyone with a mental illness. We all know someone who is a bit off, the public needs to be protected from these people.

I sometimes hate the place that logic takes us.
 
What rational person needs a car that goes 200 mph, Ferraris should be banned. As long as you follow the law, you should not be punished for your possessions.

Since everyone who commits mass murder is crazy, lets just lock up everyone with a mental illness. We all know someone who is a bit off, the public needs to be protected from these people.

I sometimes hate the place that logic takes us.

Let me know when a Ferrari opens fire on 5-10 year olds then we can have that talk. Again I would lve an answer to my question what does a person need with a 30 round or 100 round clip? You are not being rational. Just making dumb comparisons in hope that some gun nuts run to your aide
 
"New policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting." Sounds to me that it could include mental health, because it is a mental health problem. You're just trying to sound like a Republican and imply that Obama has been trying to take away our guns. Quite a stretch, don't you think? It is a mental health issue and my guess is it will be a mental health solution, plus ending 100 round clips, assault weapons, and perhaps another rational option.

As I read your post I am listening to the nightly news ABC, he is proposing an assault rifle ban, a large clip ban and some other ban that I have lost for the moment because you distracted me;.
 
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