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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    President Obama on Wednesday tapped Vice President Biden to lead an administration-wide effort looking at gun control and other measures in the wake of the Connecticut school shooting last week.
    "The fact that this problem is complex can no longer be an excuse for doing nothing," Obama said.
    The move marks the first concrete step by the White House toward crafting new firearms restrictions.
    I thought that it was the job of the legislature to craft legislation and the job of the executive to execute that legislation. What is the president talking about? He can't write legislation.

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Hey ! Biden can start by getting to the bottom of this !

    Ex-ATF official's gun ends up at Mexican cartel shootout that killed beauty queen | Fox News
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    GOP senator demands answers after a gun belonging to a former assistant ATF office chief was found at the scene of a November cartel shootout with the Mexican military that left five dead, including a Mexican beauty queen.
    Of course, his boss invoked Executive Privilege on all the Fast and Furious stuff. But this isn't just gun-running by the Feds into Mexico so as to create the appearance of a gun-control lapse. This is now the agents sending their own guns ... "Here. Take this one too. I'm getting an upgrade".

    Stupid stupid liberals. Stupid.

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You don't need assault type weapons for self defense, the gun fanatics have maintained for years the only difference is cosmetic. So it will be no hardship on the gun fanatics.
    Just out of curiosity what in your mind defines a "gun fanatic"?

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    I thought that it was the job of the legislature to craft legislation and the job of the executive to execute that legislation. What is the president talking about? He can't write legislation.
    Ever heard of the bully pulpit?

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I support the 2nd Amendment for protecting themselves and hunting, but I don't support people having guns used for war.
    So, "protecting yourself" is just a walk in the park ? Morning chore ? Maybe right there with cooking your food before you eat it ?

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Standard issue for the MILITARY as those weapons in question can ROCK N ROLL (go full auto for the non-serving crowd), something our civilian counterparts can't do. I carry 20 round mags for my AK, don't rip bursts so the 20 round mags are more than enough- and I don't shoot off any bench.

    I can own 30 round mags but since I am prone a lot they don't work for me and I have never needed 30 rounds without stopping.

    Very rational.

    Semi vs auto... big difference
    well tell me why do most of the professional level three gun competitive shooters use BETA C mags in their AR 15s which are only allowed to run on semi at the big pro matches. and why does Eric Grauffel (probably the greatest practical pistol shooter in history) run with 26 round mags in his Tangfolio Gold Team race gun rather than say the 15 rounders those guns normally come with

    and why do civilian police officers generally carry 30 round mags in their ARs even though many of those only run on semi auto

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Because the 'professional' competitive shooters are playing a combat sim game, not engaging real targets like coyotes, feral hogs and such. Run n gun, arcade games for big boys. Make the game lotsa shots and you want high cap mags. No mystery why they want them. Course change the course of fire and you can drop back to 20 round mags, again no big mystery. An individual's preference for a longer mag in the comps come from the need to shave split seconds from their overall time, the use of the mag as a handhold for run n gun play. you can have a 15 round mag that extends as far out of the weapon as the 30 rounder if a hand hold is what you want.

    But I think you answered the question yourself when you called his weapon a 'race gun'.

    Law Enforcement Officers do not need 30 round mags- has anyone heard of any LEO dumping an entire 30 round mag at one sitting as we used to say. 30 round mags are for fire suppression, attempting to put the enemy's head down so we could send the maneuver element diddy bop around the flank. Would be a tad more difficult to do with a semi-only weapon, and a lot irresponsible in most LEO environments.

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Ever heard of the bully pulpit?
    Speaking of which, if no one posted it yet, check out this BS from the turd-in-chief. Today.

    JAKE TAPPER, ABC NEWS: It seems to a lot of observers that you made the political calculation in 2008 in your first term and in 2012 not to talk about gun violence. You had your position on renewing the ban on semiautomatic rifles that then-Senator Biden put into place, but you didnít do much about it. This is not the first issue -- the first incident of horrific gun violence of your four years. Where have you been?

    THE PRESIDENT: Well, hereís where Iíve been, Jake. Iíve been President of the United States dealing with the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, an auto industry on the verge of collapse, two wars. I donít think Iíve been on vacation.

    Hey Obama. You forgot to mention that you had to work on your golf game. That you had a bad hook to work out, and your putting was a mess.

    Lying sack of crap !

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    I thought that it was the job of the legislature to craft legislation and the job of the executive to execute that legislation. What is the president talking about? He can't write legislation.
    As a constitutional law professor, I think President Obama understands the powers of the president better than you or I.

    He also understands that Joe Biden knows his way around congress. He can work with the federal LEO and bring valuable suggestions to the table.

    The one thing POTUS can do right now w/o congress is instruct military officials to make sure all dishonorable discharges, military cases of domestic abuse, stalking, and mental illness are turned over to NICS so that the datebase is current.

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    Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Mag capacity would be relevant If he had 1 30 round magazine and fired until he was empty and stopped. He reloaded 3x. Cho reload 9 times. Holmes reloaded a least 8 times. Unfettered. 10 rounds, 30 rounds...it is irrelevant. He was there for 10 minutes in that school with zero deterrence. The magazine capacity argument is idiotic. I can carry 3 15 round magazines and 10 10 round magazines, drop and reload each cycle in about 2 seconds.

    The mag capacity argument is moronic promoted by morons who have but one aim...pass ANY firearm legislation.

    You might more effectively address what to do in that 10 minute span between 911 and first responders on the scene.

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