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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I would say the liberal zealots were very upfront about wanting 'gun control'. Moderates didn't think President Obama would unilaterally announce sweeping restrictions. However a series of rather outrageous mass murders has pushed many citizens to deciding something must be done.

    What restrictions that may or may not be finally adopted are still very much in the wind. Reduce the number of rounds in the mag? that means returning to the restrictions BushII announced during his term. A list of weapons that can not longer be imported? Again that sounds like it has been done before by a Bush.

    Course the right wing will scream- SEE SEE he wants our guns n our Bibles!

    Lets hope rational folks on all sides of this issue can come together and work on more than stirring anger, fear and resentment.
    there is no rational reason for magazine limitations other than to incrementally get rid of semi auto weapons

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    And just like you are not advocating unlimited ownership, nobody is advocating zero ownership. But somehow, the nutjob right-wing is simply incapable of having a discussion somewhere in the middle of those two things. To them, "maybe we should have better background checks" translates into "OBUMMER GONNA TAKE ALL MY GUNS." Idiots in Congress? Why should we expect them to have a rational discussion when we can't even do it ourselves?
    there is nothing rational about restricting the rights of honest people in reaction to a guy who killed a lawful owner to get her guns

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Except, you know, the legally purchased firearms that committed the recent massacre.
    that is dishonest-you are trying to make it sound as if the killer obtained the firearms through legal purchase

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Guns are needed for self defense, I can't help it if some people use them for illegal purposes. If you take my self defense weapon the bad guys will be the only armed guys.
    You don't need assault type weapons for self defense, the gun fanatics have maintained for years the only difference is cosmetic. So it will be no hardship on the gun fanatics.
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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I hate the place your logic takes us to also!

    I'm getting real tired of people's feeble attempts comparing a car that is needed for for transportation, to the weapon of choice with gangs in the US and Mexico.

    Just wanted you to know how stupid that comparison sounds to those without your unique insight.
    Just because you want it to be stupid doesnt make it stupid. A whole room full of people would seem to disagree with you except 1.

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    there is no rational reason for magazine limitations other than to incrementally get rid of semi auto weapons
    Rational reasons don't seem rational to the extremists, no matter the side. Back when I joined the infantry everyone to include our automatic riflemen (ARs we called them) were issued 20 (18) round mags. Now everyone carries 30 round mags even the REMFs (not to mention the never beens)

    30 round mags don't make you freer and 20 round mags don't lead to enslavement.

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Rational reasons don't seem rational to the extremists, no matter the side. Back when I joined the infantry everyone to include our automatic riflemen (ARs we called them) were issued 20 (18) round mags. Now everyone carries 30 round mags even the REMFs (not to mention the never beens)

    30 round mags don't make you freer and 20 round mags don't lead to enslavement.

    the standard issue for the AK is 30 rounds, same with my favorite-the steyr AUG (except for shooting prone)

    and banning 30 or 20 is not rational

    and the Progressives want to limit us (today) to ten rounds

    and yes the 30 round Pmags are just as reliable as the old 20 round subcontractor reynolds aluminum jobs you had. I do have a few 20 round AK mags for shooting off a bench. but 99% of the AK mags are 30

    same with the Valmet and the Israeli "AK" Galil is a 35 rounder

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    You are not rational

    Any Collectivist Authoritarian who is gleeful about taking away my 2nd Amendment Rights, which was STATED in the Constitution, not granted by Government, by his very nature is irrational.

    Gun Control legislation didn't work before. It won't work now. You know what they say about the definition of mental illness. Trying the same thing over and over expecting different results and all that ...
    Oh I have been tested, I have tendencies but I am rational enough for Gubmint work...

    Not sure who is the Collectivist Authoritarian and how gleeful they are... do see some over blown panty wadding going on though. Sometimes being over emotional on the defensive has you seeing things... steady up and watch your sector of responsibility.

    I'd remind those wrapping themselves up tightly in the Constitution that the Supreme Court has ruled reasonable restrictions are Constitutional.

    Same Court ruled the right to self defense with firearms is an Individual one, so it isn't a 'liberal' court.

    I'm interested to see what the NRA says on this all.

    I'm way more for more funding on mental health than banning anything, so don't knee jerk react to me as if I am a 'gun grabber'.

    But I damn sure am rational, just not quite right...

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that is dishonest-you are trying to make it sound as if the killer obtained the firearms through legal purchase
    Apparently his mother made the legal purchase. She and 25 innocent people are dead today because of her legal purchase. Twenty of them never made it past the age of 7.


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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Apparently his mother made the legal purchase. She and 25 innocent people are dead today because of her legal purchase. Twenty of them never made it past the age of 7.
    THAT IS A STUPID LIE, SHE AND 25 others are dead because a maniac MURDERED HER (in violation of the most serious penalty CT can impose) then STOLE the gun (A federal felony) and then MURDERED others

    you seem to forget all those intervening actions

    I guess your solution is to ban all honest people owning any gun because a CRIMINAL might murder the owner and take the gun

    but what are you going to do when someone kills a cop and then kills others with his gun

    are you going to say the deaths were caused by the cop having been issued the gun

    and yeah that happens. Clifford George and K-9 "Officer" Bullet and Bullet's handler Jerry Norton (Jerry's brother Rick was on a IPSC team with me) were all killed or wounded with Officer George's service weapon

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