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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Sure they arent needed. But they sure as hell do supplement protection.
    Use something else to supplement protection. Have you tried this?

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Use something else to supplement protection. Have you tried this?

    No but it looks pretty. Can you show me more pictures of your rear end?
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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Never let a crisis go to waste. Obama is attempting to strike while the iron is hot and has put his buffoon VP out as a puppet so obama can pull the strings and Biden can take the heat. Here we go again, another shooting another attempt to circumvent the 2nd amendment, same S*** different day.


    President Obama on Wednesday tapped Vice President Biden to lead an administration-wide effort looking at gun control and other measures in the wake of the Connecticut school shooting last week.
    "The fact that this problem is complex can no longer be an excuse for doing nothing," Obama said.
    The move marks the first concrete step by the White House toward crafting new firearms restrictions.


    Read more: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting | Fox News
    I think this has more to do with Obama maybe needing to focus on the fiscal cliff. It also doesnt hurt to keep Biden busy because I am sure he doesn't have very much meaningful input on how to fix the economy and avoid the fiscal cliff, so he tossed him a "side issue" to get him out of his hair. At this point Obama doesn't need brownie points from the American people, he can never be elected president again, and I doubt he will continue on in any other form of government, so no need to be liked.
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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    No but it looks pretty. Can you show me more pictures of your rear end?
    Just how much money are you offering?
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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Banning "assault rifles" is just the first step towards banning all firearms and that's the reason we can't stand for it.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    we have already confirmed and I have accepted your completely mindless argument against the Colt Ar15 and allowing for .308s AKs, and street sweepers.
    I believe you are attempting to sneak the comparison past those without experience shooting the weapons in question. I can only guess the ardent military style/high cap mag crowd are letting you or have no first hand knowledge of these weapons.

    Lets keep the apples with the apples and discuss oranges later. The AR15 and AK47 use intermediate cartridges pioneered late in WWII by the Germans. The recoil is reduced and thus ability to hold on target for multiple rounds was far superior to battle rifles.

    The 5.56x45 and 7.62x39 are not in the same league as the 7.62x51. The 7.62x51 is the battle rifle cartridge modernized. Put into a light AK style rifle and problems abound. Feel recoil is substantial, the weapon has to be beefed-up to withstand the recoil. The civilian version is called the 308 Winchester. For those unfamiliar with the round in question the military version for NATO can send a 147gr Full Metal Jacket out around 2400 fps second using approx DOUBLE the powder charge of the AK which sends a 123gr FMJ out around 2300 fps with HALF the powder of the 308. Using twice the powder on a heavier bullet sure does boost felt recoil. it would take a lot of practice to handle the heavier recoiling weapon and put multiple rounds on target like an AR.

    My DPMS, an AR10 clone is a heavy witch compared to the M16A1 I carried. I don't see gang bangers doing drive-bys with my DPMS.

    Now the detachable mag shotgun-
    Bulky, cumbersome, very muzzle heavy and the mags run in excess of 100 bucks each. Like 100 round mags for your M4orgery, bought by those who lack experience or don't have to carry (or use them) anywhere but the local range.

    But I'd imagine the detachable mag shotguns would be limited to at most 7 round mag.

    The Street Sweeper style shotguns-
    I want to say President Ronald Reagan banned the original Street Sweeper Shotgun back in 1984. They were considered destructive devices. One thing for certain sending 9 to 12 32-33 caliber pellets at your target with each trigger pull takes a lot of the 'aim' out of a close encounter. Except for price/weight/functionality issues would make great mass murder weapons...

    I'd opine there is a huge difference between an AR15 in 5.56, and my AR10 in 308. A huge difference between the AK in 7.62x39 and 7.62x51.

    And a huge difference between the mag fed shotguns and my tube fed pump.

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Banning "assault rifles" is just the first step towards banning all firearms and that's the reason we can't stand for it.
    This is the hammer hitting the nail directly on the head!

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    This is the hammer hitting the nail directly on the head!

    I think this is much more on target!

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I think this is much more on target!

    That if you want guns you are a paranoid genocidal racist? Noted.
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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I think this is much more on target!
    Oh... I had no idea that I didn't want a gun to be able to protect my family from criminals, I actually wanted it to be a racist POS and murder people.

    Thanks for enlightening all of us with your theatrics.
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