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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Moot has a point. My right to own guns are, according to many, important towards defending my other rights. That right, backed and vehemently supported primarily by republicans, ironically...does little to preserve my other rights against the encroachment by those very same republicans. FCC, patriot act, drug laws, selective voter registration, all republican babies.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Even if what you state is true, they are not losing their right to vote, it's just more hassle to exercise their right. It's being infringed upon, according to some. So, why do those people have no problem with infringing on citizens' right to bear arms?
    Well, according some their gun rights are being infringed upon, but I haven't seen any evidence of that. Take TD for instance, he's probably got more guns than he knows what to do with and certainly more than he would ever need or use for self defense and no one's taken his gun rights away. So exactly whose gun rights have been infringed upon? At least I could show you evidence of voter suppression, all I've seen from gun righty's is a slippery slope fallacy.

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You did not answer the question. "How does a gun that you claim only has cosmetic differences, protect you better than other guns available?
    that is a non issue-the magazine ban was substantive

    You fail again

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Moot has a point. My right to own guns are, according to many, important towards defending my other rights. That right, backed and vehemently supported primarily by republicans, ironically...does little to preserve my other rights against the encroachment by those very same republicans. FCC, patriot act, drug laws, selective voter registration, all republican babies.
    IF FDR had not expanded the commerce clause and if his judges had not allowed that, there would be no current constitutional basis for most of the stuff you complain of

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by TaraAnne View Post
    I think a good number of people want to look at tighter gun control laws. So you are wrong here. Also he wants to look at other areas where we can improve. So our President is doing his job. I am sick to death of hearing about the 2nd amendment and how it give right to unlimited gun ownership. Plus ask any rational person why they need a 30 or 100 clip and the best they can come up with is maybe target practice. Bottom line the President is doing his job. I guess he had the pusle of right wing America more than most of us thought. Cling to guns and religion, and that scares the crap out of a majority of Americans
    Then maybe you folks need to leave, because Guns and Religion are two of the main things this nation was FOUNDED ON. As for why we need high capacity ammunition devices.... because there are people like Obama, Biden, and the current AG out there.

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Moot has a point. My right to own guns are, according to many, important towards defending my other rights. That right, backed and vehemently supported primarily by republicans, ironically...does little to preserve my other rights against the encroachment by those very same republicans. FCC, patriot act, drug laws, selective voter registration, all republican babies.
    You site these as republicant laws yet they could not have passed, or remained, without demorat support. Be very careful throwing stones in that glass house of yours. BTW, what is "selective" voter registration? Voting is supposed to be limitted to only once per person per election and only in the district assigned by your actual residence - both of which are enhanced by positive voter ID laws. I may easily own multiple residences, thus have multiple utility bills in my name for each, but still may legally vote only using one of them.
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Welcome to the land of federal government, in which we elect representatives to impose our wills upon others on a reg basis. Get over it already.
    Actually we elect representatives who should first uphold and defend the Constitution.
    If they act outside the framework of the Constitution, They should be removed from office.
    One of the requirements is that the Federal Government not infringe on our right to keep and bear arms.

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by TaraAnne View Post
    Gun Control Polls Shift After Tragic Shootings But Party Affiliation Is Key

    I think a good number of people want to look at tighter gun control laws. So you are wrong here. Also he wants to look at other areas where we can improve. So our President is doing his job. I am sick to death of hearing about the 2nd amendment and how it give right to unlimited gun ownership. Plus ask any rational person why they need a 30 or 100 clip and the best they can come up with is maybe target practice. Bottom line the President is doing his job. I guess he had the pusle of right wing America more than most of us thought. Cling to guns and religion, and that scares the crap out of a majority of Americans
    The proposed limit on maximum magazine capacity is 10 rounds which would make even the following, personal defense, pistol "illegal" : The Taurus PT638 Pro SA .380 ACP Review
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Who are you defending yourself from, that you need 100 round drums?
    The bill of rights, does not state that one must need to speak freely about everything.
    You just can, because a right is not based on need.

    Why do you think I don't want a 100 rd drum, when I've never killed and will not kill anyone?
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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by TaraAnne View Post
    Let me know when a Ferrari opens fire on 5-10 year olds then we can have that talk. Again I would lve an answer to my question what does a person need with a 30 round or 100 round clip? You are not being rational. Just making dumb comparisons in hope that some gun nuts run to your aide
    You don't need to vote, nor do you need to speak freely.
    I sure hope you don't consume alcohol, because a lot of deaths are related to that and you don't need it.

    America wasn't based on rights, that only extend to what you need.
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