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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I'm pretty sure they are going to ban high capacity magazines so I don't think that will be a problem. Besides I have it on good authority from the good gun owners on the forum here that high capacity magazines are of no advantage to gun owners.
    They 'banned' high capacity magazines before...and it did...what exactly? Oh yeah..."weeeeee! We passed a Law!!!"

    BTW...Id like to help you out on that whole "gang members weapon of choice"...but the facts don't really support it. You will notice however a lot of your assault shotguns...
    (you DO know what a shotgun looks like...right?)
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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    And just so you can see...this is how they roll in Chicago...that city with the highest murder rate (and some of the strictest gun laws) in the country.
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    And some more from Cali...
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    You aren't seeing a whole lot of Uzis there...right? Colt AR15s? Tec9s?

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    They 'banned' high capacity magazines before...and it did...what exactly? Oh yeah..."weeeeee! We passed a Law!!!"

    BTW...Id like to help you out on that whole "gang members weapon of choice"...but the facts don't really support it. You will notice however a lot of your assault shotguns...
    (you DO know what a shotgun looks like...right?)


    It will take decades of a ban maybe, a century after they've been banned, for us to retrieve all these weapons that have been available so long.

    What Law Enforcement Says About Assault Weapons
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    Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It will take decades of a ban maybe, a century after they've been banned, for us to retrieve all these weapons that have been available so long.

    What Law Enforcement Says About Assault Weapons
    Dare to dream. Because look how well the bans work in mejico. Heck...who knows...maybe we could even achieve the levels of success attained by banning heroin and other illegal drugs.

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Dare to dream. Because look how well the bans work in mejico. Heck...who knows...maybe we could even achieve the levels of success attained by banning heroin and other illegal drugs.
    Without the supply of US guns, their ban would be working much better!
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    Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Without the supply of US guns, their ban would be working much better!
    Almost as good as the drug ban! Huzzah! And then...you will still have to deal with the reality that the vast majority of spree killings were actually committed with handguns. "WTG! WEEEEEE....we passed a ban!"

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    Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Why do a lot of people have a problem with placing barriers (photo ID requirement) on our constitutional right to vote, but they have no problem placing barriers on other constitutional rights?

    I thought rights are rights, and shall not be infringed upon, are they not?
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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Why do a lot of people have a problem with placing barriers (photo ID requirement) on our constitutional right to vote, but they have no problem placing barriers on other constitutional rights?

    I thought rights are rights, and shall not be infringed upon, are they not?

    Let us not forget what else you need an ID for. You need it to get a job, because we woulw not want people to do the dangerous thing like work before they checked your background and your credit rating. I need to show ID before i buy a beer or a pack of smokes. We know how often people go on murderous cigarette flicking sprees. I need an ID and to register when i buy sudafed. They do more cracking down on sudafed sales online than they do on gun sales. If i wanted to buy a case load of sudefed i need all sorts of things, including a business license and records to show how I sell them, but I could buy a crate of ammo and some high capacity clips, and even some guns and no one flips their lid over all of that. If i go out and download a huge number of songs and distribute copywrited material the government will come knocking on my door and fine me, but not a peep if i go buy a butt-ton of bullets.

    if we are going to treat non-dangerous things with this much firepower i think we can take a little more time with those people who are buying items which have a singular purpose to kill other things. This idea that regulation is wrong when it comes to deadly firearms, but if i want to screw some person in the ass it violates a number of state sodomy laws is completely rediculous and insane. I am glad the government is starting to realize it is time to make gun owners register and do some real checking into who they are and do our best to make sure the crazies do not get guns. When i have to show more ID and get more scrtuiny buying a movie ticket for an R rated movie than i do a box of bullets you people have got to be kidding me with the idea that this is right.

    You have a choice, either get the hell out of my face when i buy ****, and get out of my bedroom, and get out of my damned life with your other regulation, or deal with some gun regulations. That means if i want to do PCP, coke, and pound down bveers and smokes on my way to the abortrion clinic to have my baby aborted after my bisexual orgy, and then light a damned bible and cross on fire with an american flag soaked in kerosene while eating 15 paula dean donut burgers and cursing up a storm while doing it then I can do it, and you can buy your guns. If not, screw you and your gun rights. I am getting a little sick of the gun people who love to fight for their gun rights, and then fight against everyone else's rights. If you don't believe in rights for all then you have none of your own, and i will not recognize your rights until you start backing everything from drugs and abortion to freedom.

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    Re: Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Reducing the magazine capacity for "safety" is such illogical thinking. So what size should the mag be?
    Is the thinking that 20 is safer than 30, or nine is safer, or 1?
    Imo, it's the difference between shooting one bullet into a child as opposed to 10 or 11 and then going on to the next child and doing the same without having to change clips in a matter of seconds. Understand now?


    Well then lets all go a back to 55mph in our vehicles, its safer than 75. Wait lets make it 25 and include breath analyzers in all vehicles to ensure we don't drive drunk.
    Darn, we're still at 55mph in my superduper red state.

    The mass shooting events are tragic. Looking at the weapon is a very small part. Finding out what is causing these people to go off and correcting that will do more than any gun laws.
    We should try and do everything we can to prevent these tradgedy's from happening again. If Lanza didn't have easy access to guns this never would have happened. Yes, he might have killed his mother and himself by other means, but he wouldn't have been able to commit mass murder like he did.

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    Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Let us not forget what else you need an ID for. You need it to get a job, because we woulw not want people to do the dangerous thing like work before they checked your background and your credit rating. I need to show ID before i buy a beer or a pack of smokes. We know how often people go on murderous cigarette flicking sprees. I need an ID and to register when i buy sudafed. They do more cracking down on sudafed sales online than they do on gun sales. If i wanted to buy a case load of sudefed i need all sorts of things, including a business license and records to show how I sell them, but I could buy a crate of ammo and some high capacity clips, and even some guns and no one flips their lid over all of that. If i go out and download a huge number of songs and distribute copywrited material the government will come knocking on my door and fine me, but not a peep if i go buy a butt-ton of bullets.

    if we are going to treat non-dangerous things with this much firepower i think we can take a little more time with those people who are buying items which have a singular purpose to kill other things. This idea that regulation is wrong when it comes to deadly firearms, but if i want to screw some person in the ass it violates a number of state sodomy laws is completely rediculous and insane. I am glad the government is starting to realize it is time to make gun owners register and do some real checking into who they are and do our best to make sure the crazies do not get guns. When i have to show more ID and get more scrtuiny buying a movie ticket for an R rated movie than i do a box of bullets you people have got to be kidding me with the idea that this is right.

    You have a choice, either get the hell out of my face when i buy ****, and get out of my bedroom, and get out of my damned life with your other regulation, or deal with some gun regulations. That means if i want to do PCP, coke, and pound down bveers and smokes on my way to the abortrion clinic to have my baby aborted after my bisexual orgy, and then light a damned bible and cross on fire with an american flag soaked in kerosene while eating 15 paula dean donut burgers and cursing up a storm while doing it then I can do it, and you can buy your guns. If not, screw you and your gun rights. I am getting a little sick of the gun people who love to fight for their gun rights, and then fight against everyone else's rights. If you don't believe in rights for all then you have none of your own, and i will not recognize your rights until you start backing everything from drugs and abortion to freedom.
    I mostly agree with you, but your post has nothing to do with what I asked.

    Why is it ok, to some people, to infringe on a constitutional right (the right to bear arms), but not ok to infringe on another constitutional right (the right to vote)?

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