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    Re: Westboro Meets Its Match: Thousands Sign Retaliatory Petitions

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It may not be "what was intended", but it is a consequence there of. Live with it. Destroying freedom because you don't think some dumbass pricks should talk will not drive us to a better place. Freedom has consequences, we must accept those.
    "Destroying freedom"????!!!!! Grow up! So you agree it was not the intention but you add it is a consequence there of which means you are saying it is OK to kill a family when your are drunk behind the wheel of a car because it was never your intention to do so. You may want to stop hacking about "freedom" until you grasp the concepts of respect and obligation and simple common decency.
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    Re: Westboro Meets Its Match: Thousands Sign Retaliatory Petitions

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    Stalin and Hitler were human.
    Tis true, and doesn't change anything I said.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Westboro Meets Its Match: Thousands Sign Retaliatory Petitions

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    "Destroying freedom"????!!!!! Grow up! So you agree it was not the intention but you add it is a consequence there of which means you are saying it is OK to kill a family when your are drunk behind the wheel of a car because it was never your intention to do so. You may want to stop hacking about "freedom" until you grasp the concepts of respect and obligation and simple common decency.
    What an absolutely idiotic argument.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Westboro Meets Its Match: Thousands Sign Retaliatory Petitions

    Quote Originally Posted by RepublicanMcDuc View Post
    How can one justify removing this church's status, but not that of other churches?
    Because you remove one drivers right to drive doesn't mean all drivers lose their right to drive.

    It is a case by case basis.

    The question is, how did they get tax exempt status in the first place. They don't appear to be an actual church.

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    Re: Westboro Meets Its Match: Thousands Sign Retaliatory Petitions

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    damn... I hate WBC as much as anyone... but don't sign me up for approving of this petition crap.

    due process means something in our system... ****ing use it.
    don't believe you have the power to strip groups of their rights or benefits just because you do not like them or their message.

    the IRS has a hotline you can call if you feel a group is not holding up their tax exempt bargain...use it.... don't go grabbin' pitchfork and torches.... use the ****ing system we have.
    Isn't the petition the begninning of due process?

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    Re: Westboro Meets Its Match: Thousands Sign Retaliatory Petitions

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    So now a petition is started? So now Anonymous does their crap to them? They're all douchebags, this should have been happening a long time ago when they were doing this to grieving families burying servicemen!!
    Or before that, when they were doing this to grieving families of gay people...

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    Re: Westboro Meets Its Match: Thousands Sign Retaliatory Petitions

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    can somebody explain to me how this is a suppression of free speech? I agree that singling out wbc as a hate group and not doing the same for similarly hateful churches and organizations is abuse of power, but hate groups can still have demonstrations and the like, so...
    Why Is This A Suppression Of Free Speech?

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    Re: Westboro Meets Its Match: Thousands Sign Retaliatory Petitions

    1. I have no love for Westboro...but then again, I have no love for the KKK.

    2. Citizens have the right to petition their government, so I have no heartburn with any of the people who have signed the ones mentioned in the article.

    3. The government should not rescind the tax exempt status for Westboro unless they are willing to rescind that status for every other group that now has it because, as far as I know, Westboro has not broken any laws that affect its status.

    4. Mob rule does not...nor should it...have a place in our society.
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    Re: Westboro Meets Its Match: Thousands Sign Retaliatory Petitions

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Why Is This A Suppression Of Free Speech?
    It's the use of government force against Church picked out because you don't like their message.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Westboro Meets Its Match: Thousands Sign Retaliatory Petitions

    As odious as their message is and as suspect of their "church" status may be, it seems to me that trying to shut them up is suppression of freedom of speech. Removing their tax free status as a religious institution is abrogating the constitutional right of freedom of worship.

    BUT, they should be allowed to demonstrate, as long as its far enough away to respect the rights of the mourners. their in your face hateful messages and protests can and should be viewed as an assault on innocent mourners rights and religious freedoms and as such their protests should be removed/confined to a space far enough away from the cemetary that it has no impact on the ritual. And if they break the rules they should get their arses thrown in jail.

    I watched one of those clowns in an interview and I must say she was an arrogant, self righteous, rude, pinhead, totally oblivious to reality.
    My Karma ran over your Dogma.

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