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    Re: Dam Lanza - Aperger's Syndrome and "dysfunctional (my title)

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    I would replace "crazy" with "evil", but I know that word is terribly out of fashion. A low functioning autistic person might lash out briefly at a tormentor, and possibly even hurt that person. But shooting through a door and laying waste to dozens of strangers, most of which were little children who he could not possibly see as a threat to him?

    There is no "crazy" that fits. "Evil" is the only thing that makes sense. Lanza made a conscious choice to do an evil thing. Why, at the moment, is anybody's guess.
    This is such utter nonsense. You are indeed totally uninformed and you really need to get out of your bubble now and again.
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    Re: Dysfunctional relationship of Sandy Hook gunman and his mother Read more: http:/

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Well there's the rub. In some aspect we all suffer from time to time and abnormal implies that there is something wrong with a person who's essentially different and is illequiped to fit in to a society who's broadbrushed them as substandard.

    Aspergers is thought to be genetic, and in fact our son did inherit it from me although I worked through the social aspects of it and capitalized on the innate inteligence that the condition seems to be associated with it.

    His IQ was 143 a few years ago, when I was in Jr High mine was tested at 134. So he has a higher IQ but also he has a more pronounced difficulties with the social aspects of Aspergers than I did.

    People ? Relationships ? He could care less. Same with me when I was younger but I also realized the practical importance of fellowship and understood the dangers of isolating one's self down to a point where you truly are alone.

    I'm confident I can coach him through the difficult years but to classify it as a disorder just doesn't sit well with me.

    If its the best I can do to weigh the pro's and cons of the way his brain is wired then its still enough for me to say it's a blessing more than a curse.

    They are not idiot savants, they are not retarded and they are not a threat to anyone.

    Their minds are entire worlds alone to them and they're content to focus inward and apply their high intelligence on what ever they're currently obsessed with.

    The hard part is getting them out of what is a position of ultimate comfort and security.
    This sounds very familiar and very true. My son is very much the same way. he could care less what society does just what we do or his family outside the home. Beyond that he is oblivious. Not be choice by 'design" that just the way it is. All a Aspie parent can do especially one who is Aspie themselves is help and try and help them learn from our experiences.

    It is very hard to see my life repeated in his. That is why I am so passionate about this subject
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    Re: Dysfunctional relationship of Sandy Hook gunman and his mother Read more: http:/

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    This does have all the earmarks of the typical biased article written by a typical left-wing extremist_

    I can't imagine why anyone would believe there is any useful information to be found in this article_
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    "She would get very upset that he wouldn’t let her hug him:' Dysfunctional relationship of Sandy Hook gunman and his mother"
    IMO, this alone would definitely not qualify this mother and son as having a "dysfunctional relationship"_

    "Nancy Lanza portrayed as 'survivalist' who stockpiled food, water and guns"
    Taking into account the US financial situation, preparing for economic collapse doesn't seem all that unreasonable_

    "She was shot four times in the head, possibly as she slept, by her son"
    Considering one shot would have sufficed is just another indication that the young man had psychologically snapped_

    "Collection of guns included handguns, assault rifle and two hunting rifles"
    Every other report I've seen said her guns were registered and legal which contradicts this report of an "assault rifle"_

    "Son Adam was reclusive, spending most of his time in adjoining bedrooms"
    This seems to be quite common for many young people these days with their video games and computers_

    "Friend: Mrs Lanza 'would get very upset that he wouldn’t let her hug him"
    Understandable___I would imagine this would upset many if not most mothers who love their children_
    You madam are uninformed and suffer from a severe case of tunnel vision. You obviously have no knowledge or experience in this area and if you did you would probably still not understand.
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    Re: Dysfunctional relationship of Sandy Hook gunman and his mother Read more: http:/

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    You madam are uninformed and suffer from a severe case of tunnel vision. You obviously have no knowledge or experience in this area and if you did you would probably still not understand.
    I took the time to break down the article to better explain my criticisms and opinions while you were generic_

    As an obvious expert "in this area" will you take the time to point out where and explain why I am wrong?

    I'm sure this will be no problem for someone of such rare intelligence and understanding of human nature sir_
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    Re: Dam Lanza - Aperger's Syndrome and "dysfunctional (my title)

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    This is such utter nonsense. You are indeed totally uninformed and you really need to get out of your bubble now and again.
    It seems that with autism/aspergers syndrome becoming more talked about, parents of such children are becoming more vocal in their defenses of their children. Unfortunately, some do so to the point of self-righteous posturing.

    Do you object to the word "evil" in general, or are you arguing that a person with Aspergers syndrome/autism is incapable of making a decision that could be termed "evil"? Since you have chosen only to condemn my remarks and not explain your objection to them, I am left only with supposition about your motives.

    If I have personally offended you I am sorry, but I can't get out of my bubble unless someone shows me what's beyond it.
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    Re: Dam Lanza - Aperger's Syndrome and "dysfunctional (my title)

    The point is, someone with severe enough aspergers might very well see little difference between shooting people, or shooting rabbits. Or squirrels. The problem is, this person went to some length, and was selective with the age group targeted. Why?
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Dam Lanza - Aperger's Syndrome and "dysfunctional (my title)

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    The point is, someone with severe enough aspergers might very well see little difference between shooting people, or shooting rabbits. Or squirrels. The problem is, this person went to some length, and was selective with the age group targeted. Why?
    How do you know he "selected" this age group? Perhaps he just drove to the nearest school because he wanted to go out with a "bang" so to speak.

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    Re: Dysfunctional relationship of Sandy Hook gunman and his mother Read more: http:/

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    Nancy Lanza: Did paranoid, gun-crazed mother trigger Sandy Hook, Connecticut killing spree? | Mail Online



    Lot's of tidbits in the DailyMail piece. Don't know how many of them are true but I will say this about the DM, it may tend to sensationalize headlines but it's underlying facts usually have some truth to them.
    Perhaps we see a problem here which has nothing top do with guns. The more I read about his mother the more it seems that she warped his mind. She removed him from everyone else and no one saw him. That screams abuse. It is also a way to brainwash and twist a person's mind. The same tactic is employed by cults.

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    Re: Dam Lanza - Aperger's Syndrome and "dysfunctional (my title)

    Personally, I could give 2 effs what "problems" this kid had. We all KNOW he had some kind of a mental problem obviously. The problem is not what mental illness he suffered from. That is kind of irrelevant at this point, don't you think?

    The question is was he under any kind of treatment and did he exhibit any violent tendencies in the past or threaten anybody before?

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    Re: Dam Lanza - Aperger's Syndrome and "dysfunctional (my title)

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    How do you know he "selected" this age group? Perhaps he just drove to the nearest school because he wanted to go out with a "bang" so to speak.
    The middle school is about 3 minutes away. So is the highscool.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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