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    Re: Dam Lanza - Aperger's Syndrome and "dysfunctional (my title)

    Why is owning 5 firearms "gun crazed?" Is this the new political social labeling of the left against gun owners? I think
    just about everyone in my family as at least five - probably several more. This labeling is extreme, its also very misguided
    as most gun owners are dedicated to their country, friends and families as much as anyone.


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    Nancy Lanza: Did paranoid, gun-crazed mother trigger Sandy Hook, Connecticut killing spree? | Mail Online



    Lot's of tidbits in the DailyMail piece. Don't know how many of them are true but I will say this about the DM, it may tend to sensationalize headlines but it's underlying facts usually have some truth to them.

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    Re: Dam Lanza - Aperger's Syndrome and "dysfunctional (my title)

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    The bolded is exactly what many people are proposing to do, with the gun control issue.
    Why, yes. People become a bit more hyped up during such tragedies. Nevertheless, I consider the consequences of this sort of stigma to be much more detrimental than gun control.

    There is a sizeable number of people who would like to see restrictions placed on people who have what we consider *abnormal* mental and psychological functional status.
    Yes. From eugenicists to a fearful general public. It's a general tendency that has subsided through the generations, but has always stuck around.

    Whether or not we can call Asperger's something that one "suffers" from, seems to be in the eye of the beholder. I personally think that suffering happens across the board, to differing degrees, and to place people in high-risk categories, based on a history of diagnoses, is a slippery slope, and uncalled for, as there are multiple factors which play into any one individual's mental stability, at any given point in time.
    Usually those who make those claims about people "suffering" from the disorder are those without the disorder or school of disorders in question.

    It is a slippery slope. People need to keep in mind that it could be any number of things that happened to this young man, and they can possibly work simultaneity. Sometimes it's a lack of options in the mental health field, sometimes it's bad choices he himself had made, sometimes it becomes some of a parenting issue, sometimes you don't know.
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    Re: Dam Lanza - Aperger's Syndrome and "dysfunctional (my title)

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    The person does not suffer because they see thier responses as normal. Its not a disease its a neurological, behavioral and learning disorder. Aspies see themselves as NORMAL and the rest of you are off, so no big deal to them. HFA Autistics however and some higher functioning Aspies like me enjoy human contact, but we are the minority.
    I never said it was a disease, I know it's neurological, you can suffer from something even if it's not a disease.

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    Re: Dam Lanza - Aperger's Syndrome and "dysfunctional (my title)

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    Yes, Asperger's inhibits social interaction, a normal
    human function, to be deprived of that is to suffer.
    I have a son who was diagnosed Aspergers.

    To say someone suffers from it is to speak from a position of ignorance.

    He's extremely bright and a very happy kid. He's the sweetest kindest kid we have and was starting Algebra 2 at the end of his 3rd grade semester.

    Tested in 4rth grade with a 143 IQ.

    The shooter Friday didn't typify a Aspergers type of mentallity.

    They are shy and innately locked into a schedule. Withdrawn and not the type to go out and plan any violent action.

    A lot of scientist, physicist, engineers and mathmeticians are "Aspy's"

    They dont suffer what they're not interested in and their interest usually winds up being the focal point of their existance.

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    Re: Dam Lanza - Aperger's Syndrome and "dysfunctional (my title)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Really? Suffered?
    Stop making something out of nothing. You damn good and well how "suffer" is being used here.
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    Re: Dam Lanza - Aperger's Syndrome and "dysfunctional (my title)

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Stop making something out of nothing. You damn good and well how "suffer" is being used here.
    I do know damn good how it was being used. It meant the exact opposite of what is proper. Oh, it brings attention to mental health and disability, alright, but it does so with the exact wrong approach.
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    Re: Dam Lanza - Aperger's Syndrome and "dysfunctional (my title)

    People speculated to have Aspergers

    Albert Einstein


    Alexander Grahm Bell

    Benjamin Franklin

    Abraham Lincoln

    Bobby Fischer

    Franz Kafka

    People known to have it or had it and grew out of it

    Adam Young ( Owl City )

    Dan Akroyd

    Dawn Prince Hughes Phd

    Daryll Hannah

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    Re: Dam Lanza - Aperger's Syndrome and "dysfunctional (my title)

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    Don't know how many of them are true
    Do you care?

    ...and the source of the new info about Nancy Lanza is...wait for it...Friend of the family Rich Collins who drank in a bar with Adam Lanza's mother

    Dear God, are they going to go find her dry cleaner for quotes next? People who were parked next to her at stoplights?
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    Re: Dam Lanza - Aperger's Syndrome and "dysfunctional (my title)

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Why is owning 5 firearms "gun crazed?" Is this the new political social labeling of the left against gun owners? I think
    just about everyone in my family as at least five - probably several more. This labeling is extreme, its also very misguided
    as most gun owners are dedicated to their country, friends and families as much as anyone.
    Is it just "slightly" ironic that a person with "gun" in their username would "question" the "labeling" of owning 5 firearms as "gun crazed"? LOL......
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Dam Lanza - Aperger's Syndrome and "dysfunctional (my title)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    I have a son who was diagnosed Aspergers.

    To say someone suffers from it is to speak from a position of ignorance.

    He's extremely bright and a very happy kid. He's the sweetest kindest kid we have and was starting Algebra 2 at the end of his 3rd grade semester.

    Tested in 4rth grade with a 143 IQ.

    The shooter Friday didn't typify a Aspergers type of mentallity.

    They are shy and innately locked into a schedule. Withdrawn and not the type to go out and plan any violent action.

    A lot of scientist, physicist, engineers and mathmeticians are "Aspy's"

    They dont suffer what they're not interested in and their interest usually winds up being the focal point of their existance.
    If you have a disorder that makes you abnormal, you're suffering. I don't mean that you experience pain or anything of the sort, like apdst said, you know how suffering is being used, it's a common phrase in the English language.

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