Actor Renounces His Citizenship in Snit Over French Tax Burden

jonny5 · Dec 17, 2012

PeteEU said:
As I stated.. the actor disagrees because he is a right winger and his candidate lost.

As for "fair share" that is very simple. The "fair" part falls apart when wealthy people and corporations use loopholes not available to 99% of the population to avoid paying their full taxes. And THAT is what this tax and other movements in "liberal" Europe is on about.

The time has come for corporations and the uber wealthy to pay the same tax rates we all pay and not in single digits like they have been for decades.

If these are legal loopholes, then that is their full share. But I agree, lets pass a flat tax, no deductions, no credits.

Grant · Dec 17, 2012

Excon said:
So it is unfair. Figures!

Then those 2,000 people should consider leaving, as well as those who are near that amount.

Even the George III didn't expect that great a percentage from the American people and they rebelled. So should everyone when governments become this corrupt and can't learn to love within their means. It seems there should be a tax cap, as well as a spending cap, for all democratic governments if they want to stay that way.

Grant · Dec 17, 2012

PeteEU said:
As I stated.. the actor disagrees because he is a right winger and his candidate lost.

As for "fair share" that is very simple. The "fair" part falls apart when wealthy people and corporations use loopholes not available to 99% of the population to avoid paying their full taxes. And THAT is what this tax and other movements in "liberal" Europe is on about.

The time has come for corporations and the uber wealthy to pay the same tax rates we all pay and not in single digits like they have been for decades.

So if he was a "left winger" he would have been happy to give 75% of his income to the government?

That seems dubious, given the charitable history of left wingers.

AliHajiSheik · Dec 17, 2012

PeteEU said:
As I stated.. the actor disagrees because he is a right winger and his candidate lost.

As for "fair share" that is very simple. The "fair" part falls apart when wealthy people and corporations use loopholes not available to 99% of the population to avoid paying their full taxes. And THAT is what this tax and other movements in "liberal" Europe is on about.

The time has come for corporations and the uber wealthy to pay the same tax rates we all pay and not in single digits like they have been for decades.

He disagrees because he can and you resent that. I don't care why he left. Maybe he is a bellweather and perhaps he is all alone, but the reality is that he left.

For this actor, the barn door is still open and he is outside. Are you going to chase him or are you going to tie the other horses to their stalls?

"The time has come...". What does that mean? Is this one of those Mayan things? Is there some movement you started/joined to stick it to someone? Who are these uber wealthy that don't pay enough taxes? Do they have names or are they just an faceless concept?

Which loopholes aren't available to the 99%? Are they excluded by name or is there an eligibility to claim them? What exactly is a loophole? Are we talking about tax cheating or just tax avoidance? Perhaps there are some countries where tax cheating is legal and I don't want to be seen defending them.

zimmer · Dec 17, 2012

PeteEU said:
Gérard Depardieu cast in lead role as celebrities line up behind Sarkozy | World news | The Observer

This isn't proof of what you claimed.

First off, he makes his money in French cinema.

He is hired by those who want to hire him. They can choose not to.

He makes a handful of movies a year and French cinema is hardly giving out million dollar payments for has-been actor with a drinking problem.

Do you know what endorsement deals he has, what points he gets per picture? His entire revenue stream?
I'd be shocked if his income didn't exceed 7 figures annually.

If he even gets close the 1 million in income a year, then I would be surprised.

You would... I wouldn't. And let's say he didn't make 7 figures annually (which I highly doubt)... good for him for speaking out for those who do.

Secondly as it has been stated over and over.. this 75% tax rate effects 2000 people out of 60 million.. so a little bit of perspective please.

It's a punitive tax on people of success. But hey... socialists like you think it's your money.

And like Obama's tax on the rich... that money is a fart in a hurricane in relation to what it can do to solve the economic problems. And worse... it is going to cost them far more in investment.

Today it's 2000... and like those takes on millionaires in the US... now a millionaire is someone who makes 250,000 annually.

The poisoned socialist Parasite Nation mindset is an amazing one to watch in motion.

PeteEU · Dec 18, 2012

zimmer said:
This isn't proof of what you claimed.

That he is a right winger that supported Sarkozy? What proof do you need... a handwritten statement saying so? It is well known he supported Sarkozy and the right in France.

You are deflecting because you lost a debate.. just admit it and get over it.

He is hired by those who want to hire him. They can choose not to.

And very few want to hire him now days.. especially in hollywood. Relieving yourself in the isle of a commercial airplane kinda puts a dent in your image. Look at IMDB and check out what kind of movies he is making and the numbers the last 5 to 10 years.. hardly a massive amount or alternatively movies that give the big bucks. It is mostly french movies and they do not pay out millions of dollars/euros in actor fees.

Do you know what endorsement deals he has, what points he gets per picture? His entire revenue stream?
I'd be shocked if his income didn't exceed 7 figures annually.

Of course not, but you seem to think he is some kind of hollywood star.. he aint and has not been for over a decade. The last Hollywood movie he was in, he was playing a cook in a minor role in the Life of Pi.. hardly a blockbuster. The last "blockbuster" or remotely close to that was 102 Dalmations in 2000. His big hollywood incomes came in the 1980s and 1990s.

You would... I wouldn't. And let's say he didn't make 7 figures annually (which I highly doubt)... good for him for speaking out for those who do.

LOL awww.. those poor rich people who cant live off a million euros a year.... shame on the poor who dont have 12000 euros a year to live off.. damn slackers!

It's a punitive tax on people of success. But hey... socialists like you think it's your money.

1.) calling me a socialist does not make me a socialist.
2.) calling me a socialist is not an insult as you think it is.. only in the US.
3.) Do you even know what a socialist is?

and finally get some reality sense. We are talking about 2000 people in France. The actual rich still pay low capital gains taxes...and not the high income taxes. It is a PR stunt pure and simple. These "wealthy" 2000 people can just get their compensation changed.. away from direct paychecks and put into stocks and that would mean they would pay capital gains tax instead. Problem solved.

And like Obama's tax on the rich... that money is a fart in a hurricane in relation to what it can do to solve the economic problems. And worse... it is going to cost them far more in investment.

Ahh and finally we get to the root of the issue.. it aint France but Obama you are mad at... awwww did the black boogie man scare you with tax hikes on filthy rich slackers? Why did you just not start another anti-Obama tax on the rich thread? Why dont you start a thread defending the banks and their massive bonuses for failure?

The only time anyone on the right should be worried about tax increases is if Obama goes after capital gains and loopholes... now THAT would mean a massive tax increase.. no wait.. that would mean that the rich would actually pay taxes like the rest of us!

Today it's 2000... and like those takes on millionaires in the US... now a millionaire is someone who makes 250,000 annually.

No, a millionaire is a person who has liquid non real estate assets of one million or over. What he makes annually has nothing to do with it. You cant even get your freaking definitions right.. gezz.

Bob Blaylock · Dec 18, 2012

tech30528 said:
Interesting that governments are looking to confiscate money from individuals and the individuals are the ones who are seen as greedy. The governments can print their own money, the individuals can not.

That's left-wing logic for you. “Greed” is defined to that mindset, not by a desire to take what belongs to someone else; but by a desire to keep what one has rightfully earned.

zimmer · Dec 18, 2012

PeteEU said:
That he is a right winger that supported Sarkozy? What proof do you need... a handwritten statement saying so? It is well known he supported Sarkozy and the right in France.

You are deflecting because you lost a debate.. just admit it and get over it.

You failed to provide proof... just because he was a Sark supporter doesn't support the claim you made.

Lost the debate... ROTFLOL... try again.

And very few want to hire him now days.. especially in hollywood.

He's 63, has paid 145 million Euros in taxes and has 80 people employed.
I don't think he cares if anyone wants him anymore... (as you seem to be the Hollywierd Insider); he may have cared 25-years ago... today I doubt it even if your guess just like the ne you provided no proof for is correct.

Of course not, but you seem to think he is some kind of hollywood star.. he aint and has not been for over a decade. The last Hollywood movie he was in, he was playing a cook in a minor role in the Life of Pi.. hardly a blockbuster. The last "blockbuster" or remotely close to that was 102 Dalmations in 2000. His big hollywood incomes came in the 1980s and 1990s.

The guy is a star... an old star. So what if he isn't bang'in out the blockbusters... he doesn't have to.

Tell me PEU... what great things have you accomplished in your life?
To often people who are angry because they haven't sound just like you. Jealous, angry, and ready to have the makers knocked down. That's a sad existence.

LOL awww.. those poor rich people who cant live off a million euros a year.... shame on the poor who dont have 12000 euros a year to live off.. damn slackers!

Threads like this are perfect for revealing Socialists with poisoned minds who are swimming in a ocean of envy.
It must be a sad life... to pine to watch government be your theft. You may not live in France but you pine for government like a drug addict looking for his next fix. It's a sad existence, but hey... I'm glad it isn't me in that hole.

1.) calling me a socialist does not make me a socialist.
2.) calling me a socialist is not an insult as you think it is.. only in the US.
3.) Do you even know what a socialist is?

PEU... you're a socialist. You've left a trail of posts that lead you right to Marx's front door.

and finally get some reality sense. We are talking about 2000 people in France.

I don't care if it's 100 people... 10 people or 2 people being targeted. It's perverted... and it's ridiculously stupid... but hey... it's an ideology you and Obama subscribe to.

Ahh and finally we get to the root of the issue.. it aint France but Obama you are mad at... awwww did the black boogie man scare you with tax hikes on filthy rich slackers? Why did you just not start another anti-Obama tax on the rich thread? Why dont you start a thread defending the banks and their massive bonuses for failure?

The only time anyone on the right should be worried about tax increases is if Obama goes after capital gains and loopholes... now THAT would mean a massive tax increase.. no wait.. that would mean that the rich would actually pay taxes like the rest of us!

No, a millionaire is a person who has liquid non real estate assets of one million or over. What he makes annually has nothing to do with it. You cant even get your freaking definitions right.. gezz.[/QUOTE]

PeteEU · Dec 19, 2012

zimmer said:
You failed to provide proof... just because he was a Sark supporter doesn't support the claim you made.

Lost the debate... ROTFLOL... try again.

Yea yea what ever... seems you dont understand the obvious. Are you not mad that your man Romney lost? Are you not acting EXACTLY the same childish way almost every day on these boards with your constant anti-Obama threads? This guy is no different. He was a big time Sarkozy support and he lost... now he is taking it out on the new government in the only way he can... by acting like an idiot.

I would not be surprised if he gets hit down sooner or later with evidence that he does not even earn a million plus a year..

He's 63, has paid 145 million Euros in taxes and has 80 people employed.

Oh he does now? dont you think that if has anyone employed (other than his housekeeper), then they would be employed by a company he owns and not him personally? And dont you think that they will remain employed despite this.. since his whole market is France and nothing else? Also so what if he paid 145 million euros over 40+ years... he use to get millions per film.. not so much anymore.

I don't think he cares if anyone wants him anymore... (as you seem to be the Hollywierd Insider); he may have cared 25-years ago... today I doubt it even if your guess just like the ne you provided no proof for is correct.

So you admit that he does not even have the income that meets the 75% tax rate requirement then?

The guy is a star... an old star. So what if he isn't bang'in out the blockbusters... he doesn't have to.

Of course he does... to meet the 1 million euros a year income.. as in wages.. payroll income. That is where the tax is being put on btw if you did not know... not on income from shares and so on.

Tell me PEU... what great things have you accomplished in your life?
To often people who are angry because they haven't sound just like you. Jealous, angry, and ready to have the makers knocked down. That's a sad existence.

LOL so you are now admitting you lost the debate because all you have left is personal attacks... classy Zimmer.. classy.

I don't care if it's 100 people... 10 people or 2 people being targeted. It's perverted... and it's ridiculously stupid... but hey... it's an ideology you and Obama subscribe to.

What is perverted is your gun laws allowing 11 year olds to own guns but not allowing 20 year olds to drink alcohol... THAT is perverted.

This what France has done... is no where near perverted and quite normal. The UK implemented a similar tax on bankers a few years ago.. yes at a lower rate, but still it was a punitive PR stunt.

Grant · Dec 26, 2012

An individual has, or should have, the freedom to buy whatever he wants if the value is there. Obviously Depardeau feels the money he has to pay to live in France is no longer worthwhile. If it is the same in Belgium then he might move again.

Unless countries compete for people who create wealth they will have lower standards of living. We need these creative people just like we need all skilled people in order to make a better society. Now the French have lost several million dollars from this one person, have brought negative publicity on themselves once more, and have had a famous personality make a more public statement than others who have been doing the same thing for a while. The same holds true of people from Italy, the UK, and Germany as well as others from Western Europe who flee the high taxes and the stifling rigidity of the cultures they're leaving behind.

PeteEU · Dec 27, 2012

Sv: Actor Renounces His Citizenship in Snit Over French Tax Burden

Grant said:
An individual has, or should have, the freedom to buy whatever he wants if the value is there. Obviously Depardeau feels the money he has to pay to live in France is no longer worthwhile. If it is the same in Belgium then he might move again.

Unless countries compete for people who create wealth they will have lower standards of living. We need these creative people just like we need all skilled people in order to make a better society. Now the French have lost several million dollars from this one person, have brought negative publicity on themselves once more, and have had a famous personality make a more public statement than others who have been doing the same thing for a while. The same holds true of people from Italy, the UK, and Germany as well as others from Western Europe who flee the high taxes and the stifling rigidity of the cultures they're leaving behind.

1. He and his supporters have yet to provide any evidence showing he actually earns more than 1 million Euros a year in payroll earnings.

2. He is "fleeing" one of the best healthcare systems in the world and considering recent pictures from Rome airport of him being wheeled around in a wheelchair, then one has to question his sanity even more. He is either very sick or more likely too fat to walk.

3. Can you provide proof that wealthy people are fleeing those nations you mention? Actual numbers that is?

Ray410 · Dec 27, 2012

Re: Sv: Actor Renounces His Citizenship in Snit Over French Tax Burden

How could anyone dispute stories like this? Look at the huge numbers of people and businesses leaving California because of the taxes.

Here is a Wikipedia site that should be required reading for all liberals: South Bronx - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It describes the decline and destruction of the South Bronx by liberal government policies.

We are now seeing this same pattern on a statewide/nationwide basis in the United States and around the world. I note that in the past six months, Wikipedia has removed the sentence in the South Bronx history recital that stated as the demographics began to change, the monetary burden and responsibility for the South Bronx was seen as fairly shifting almost entirely to the white residents. Predictably, those people all left because of this "Social Justice."

Ridicule flight by the economic producers at your own peril.

PeteEU · Dec 27, 2012

Re: Sv: Actor Renounces His Citizenship in Snit Over French Tax Burden

Ray410 said:
How could anyone dispute stories like this? Look at the huge numbers of people and businesses leaving California because of the taxes.

Often promoted by right wing blogs and media outlets with no actual factual documentation to back it up. That is the problem with these "rumors"...that often start when one person of influence decides to leave... but no one mentions that others are coming too. And like it or not, California is still a great place to live.. far better than the "low tax states" of Texas and elsewhere, where freedom is a bad word.

And France/Europe aint the US.. we have a very different view on taxes over here. And as stated many times before, this tax in France hits about 2000 people and is pure PR.. much like the balanced budget crap in Texas.

Here is a Wikipedia site that should be required reading for all liberals: South Bronx - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It describes the decline and destruction of the South Bronx by liberal government policies.

Wait a minute. Has the GOP not been in power in New York for the last 12 years? Or are you blaming the "decay" on the dems of the past?

We are now seeing this same pattern on a statewide/nationwide basis in the United States and around the world. I note that in the past six months, Wikipedia has removed the sentence in the South Bronx history recital that stated as the demographics began to change, the monetary burden and responsibility for the South Bronx was seen as fairly shifting almost entirely to the white residents. Predictably, those people all left because of this "Social Justice."

Ridicule flight by the economic producers at your own peril.

More horse**** from the right. All cities, left or right run, run into situations like in the Bronx. Times change, and cities/towns become less attractive for many different reasons... crime, violence, no jobs, industries moving on and so on and so on. The wild west is riddled with "right wing" (since pretty much everyone was right wing back then) ghost towns that died.

At the end of the day taxes often have very little to do with the situation... it is other rules and regulations and attitudes that have a far far larger impact.

Camlon · Dec 27, 2012

PeteEU said:
And Conservatives dont understand that stuff needs to be paid for and everyone has to contribute.

Plus no one is sucking a person's wealth away.. it is temporary plus for only incomes over 1 million euros.. that is 1.3 million dollars.. everything under is taxed normally and if you cant live off 999.999 euros, then you seriously have a problem.

First off there is another tax called social security that is extremely high in France. The 75% tax rate is actually a 85% tax rate and the 41% tax rate is actually a 65% tax rate. There was a reason tax rates were not that high in France before Hollande.

But then the biggest misconception. You seriously think he and others leave because they don't think they can live off 1 million euro? One thing that leftist don't get is that rich people invest most of their money to get more money and that is in most cases a good thing. They don't invest their money one time, and then spend the rest on luxuries.

So why do they leave? Because if you have a capital of 4 million euro and you want to invest that with the potential to earn -2 to 8 million euro. Then after taxes in France you will get -2.5 to 1 million euro left. If you invest those money in Switzerland, then you may get -2.2 to 5 million euro left. Which country is the better choice to invest? Actually if you just want to do nothing and live a luxurious life, there is no reason to leave. France has a more taxes than Belgium, but you can stay in your homeland with your family.

French policies is giving the rich people the incentive to either stop investing in France and just live off capital, or leave. That is not a recipe for success.

PeteEU · Dec 27, 2012

Camlon said:
First off there is another tax called social security that is extremely high in France. The 75% tax rate is actually a 85% tax rate and the 41% tax rate is actually a 65% tax rate. There was a reason tax rates were not that high in France before Hollande.

The upper tax rate before Hollande was 41% for incomes above 70k. The new taxes are 45% on incomes over 150k... so in fact many people get a freaking tax CUT!

And yes social security tax is "high"..... it is 8%. Everyone pays this regardless of income.... even the rich ironically since investments are taxed by 12.1%... which is brilliant.

But then the biggest misconception. You seriously think he and others leave because they don't think they can live off 1 million euro? One thing that leftist don't get is that rich people invest most of their money to get more money and that is in most cases a good thing. They don't invest their money one time, and then spend the rest on luxuries.

As I stated before, I think the 75% tax rate is idiotic and pure PR. As for wealthy people leaving and not being able to live off 1 million euro.. considering they are not paying 75% taxes on the 999999 then I doubt they will have any problems. Remember the tax is for payroll incomes over 1 million euros.. and most wealthy dont get payroll income over 1 million euros... they get capital gains or stocks... which is taxed at a much lower tax rate.

Fact is the biggest misconceptions are being promoted by people like you for partisan political reasons and the actual facts are glossed over as irrelevant.. and that is pathetic.

So why do they leave? Because if you have a capital of 4 million euro and you want to invest that with the potential to earn -2 to 8 million euro. Then after taxes in France you will get -2.5 to 1 million euro left. If you invest those money in Switzerland, then you may get -2.2 to 5 million euro left. Which country is the better choice to invest? Actually if you just want to do nothing and live a luxurious life, there is no reason to leave. France has a more taxes than Belgium, but you can stay in your homeland with your family.

More bull****. Investment in a country is rarely dependent on taxes of said country.. it is a myth. If so, then all investment would have stopped in Scandinavia.. and in fact that is the booming part of the industrialized world.

French policies is giving the rich people the incentive to either stop investing in France and just live off capital, or leave. That is not a recipe for success.

Hogwash. The rich/corporations will always have ways of avoiding taxes as long as we have the tax systems we do now, and as long as both the left and the right dont do anything about tax evasion. I will not cry one tear about a multi-millionaire who boo hoo pays lower % tax rate than the rest of the population because he gets most of his taxable income from capital gains. And as it is, the "rich" rarely invest in anything that is job creating.. they are sitting on their wealth and let the banks (who also suck) do the investing and demand bail-outs when the banks loose their wealth.

Sorry but this fake outrage about a mystical 75% tax rate for a very few people is... pathetic.

Mr.Nick · Dec 27, 2012

Rainman05 said:
The article is a bit buggy but yes, Gerard will not longer be contributing to the French treasury. Not that it matters. It is one of few people. And it is not like Gerard was using his money to invest in companies and create wealth. he is not a wealth creator. He is just using his money to live a very, very comfortable life. Much like most of the retards in holywood or who get featured on MTV (moron TV). Most of them serve no purpose but to leech millions and provide crappy entertainment to the masses.

Why the hell would anyone invest in a pseudo-capitalist/pseudo-socialist economic model?

Socialism is good for the sheep bad for the shepherd - that's why socialism fails and requires authoritarian leadership (communism) to exist for any length of time.

I cannot blame anyone from running like a bat out of hell from even a pseudo-socialist/capitalist environment.

Rainman05 · Dec 27, 2012

Mr.Nick said:
Why the hell would anyone invest in a pseudo-capitalist/pseudo-socialist economic model?

Socialism is good for the sheep bad for the shepherd - that's why socialism fails and requires authoritarian leadership (communism) to exist for any length of time.

I cannot blame anyone from running like a bat out of hell from even a pseudo-socialist/capitalist environment.

What is a pseudo-socialist/pseudo-capitalist economic model? I never heard of such a thing.

Mr.Nick · Dec 27, 2012

Rainman05 said:
What is a pseudo-socialist/pseudo-capitalist economic model? I never heard of such a thing.

It's redistribution of wealth.

It's stealing money from the rich (who use capitalism to become rich) and taking most of it and giving it to the government so they can redistribute it via social programs.

It's not exactly socialism or capitalism, yet it mimics the outcome of socialism.

True Marxism is impossible to achieve.

It's unbalanced Keynesian economics, it's economic fascism.

Rainman05 · Dec 27, 2012

Mr.Nick said:
It's redistribution of wealth.

It's stealing money from the rich (who use capitalism to become rich) and taking most of it and giving it to the government so they can redistribute it via social programs.

It's not exactly socialism or capitalism, yet it mimics the outcome of socialism.

True Marxism is impossible to achieve.

It's unbalanced Keynesian economics, it's economic fascism.

I don't think you know what you are talking about. You are either very confused or trying to ram too many things into something...

You should know that welfare state is not a socialist concept. Nor is social security. Nor is universal healthcare... .and you should also know that European nations use the same economic model, the mixed economic model, as the US uses. France is not a socialist nation.

Mr.Nick · Dec 27, 2012

Rainman05 said:
I don't think you know what you are talking about. You are either very confused or trying to ram too many things into something...

You should know that welfare state is not a socialist concept. Nor is social security. Nor is universal healthcare... .and you should also know that European nations use the same economic model, the mixed economic model, as the US uses. France is not a socialist nation.

No they're not socialist ideas hence I used the word(s) pseudo-capitalism/socialism.

The idea mimics the outcome of socialism, at least monetarily/economically.

It's really Keynesian economics with a socialist emphasis.

joko104 · Dec 27, 2012

Rainman05 said:
How the hell should I know... but I don't see him investing in business. Do you?

I'm confident if you wrote and asked him that he would tell you. I doubt few things matter more to him than your hatred of him, while acknowledging that you know nothing about him.

joko104 · Dec 27, 2012

Rainman05 said:
The article is a bit buggy but yes, Gerard will not longer be contributing to the French treasury. Not that it matters. It is one of few people. And it is not like Gerard was using his money to invest in companies and create wealth. he is not a wealth creator. He is just using his money to live a very, very comfortable life. Much like most of the retards in holywood or who get featured on MTV (moron TV). Most of them serve no purpose but to leech millions and provide crappy entertainment to the masses.

If your message is anything other than envious hatred of successful people, please provide a link to show the he was not investing his money in companies. It think you completely made that up out of thin air to concoct a lie to support your hatred of people more successfully economically than you are. Prove me wrong.

joko104 · Dec 27, 2012

People who are failures often hate those who are successful - raging and sobbing how unfair it all is. What else can they do but make excuses to blame anyone and everyone but themselves?

joko104 · Dec 27, 2012

Ikari said:
I'd exile them from France. It's cool, renounce your citizenship; but GTFO and don't come back.

Now there's a goose-stepping perspective!

Ikari · Dec 27, 2012

joko104 said:
Now there's a goose-stepping perspective!

What's wrong with banishing those who are cowards and frauds and would rather run away rather than pay their share? Ain't no such thing as a free lunch, government costs money, maintaining society costs money. Some people enjoy the privelege and freedom, but as soon as they have theirs they don't want to pay back. So there you go. They want to run away and not contribute to the prosperity or posterity of the country; that's fine. But they don't get to come back. They can buy an island somewhere and relax for all their days; it's cool, just don't come back. I'm not saying take all their money, I'm just that if the ******s run, make sure they don't come back. They can go make their own government somewhere where there is no tax.

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