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    Re: Actor Renounces His Citizenship in Snit Over French Tax Burden

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    As I stated.. the actor disagrees because he is a right winger and his candidate lost.

    As for "fair share" that is very simple. The "fair" part falls apart when wealthy people and corporations use loopholes not available to 99% of the population to avoid paying their full taxes. And THAT is what this tax and other movements in "liberal" Europe is on about.

    The time has come for corporations and the uber wealthy to pay the same tax rates we all pay and not in single digits like they have been for decades.
    If these are legal loopholes, then that is their full share. But I agree, lets pass a flat tax, no deductions, no credits.

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    Re: Actor Renounces His Citizenship in Snit Over French Tax Burden

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    So it is unfair. Figures!
    Then those 2,000 people should consider leaving, as well as those who are near that amount.

    Even the George III didn't expect that great a percentage from the American people and they rebelled. So should everyone when governments become this corrupt and can't learn to love within their means. It seems there should be a tax cap, as well as a spending cap, for all democratic governments if they want to stay that way.

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    Re: Actor Renounces His Citizenship in Snit Over French Tax Burden

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    As I stated.. the actor disagrees because he is a right winger and his candidate lost.

    As for "fair share" that is very simple. The "fair" part falls apart when wealthy people and corporations use loopholes not available to 99% of the population to avoid paying their full taxes. And THAT is what this tax and other movements in "liberal" Europe is on about.

    The time has come for corporations and the uber wealthy to pay the same tax rates we all pay and not in single digits like they have been for decades.
    So if he was a "left winger" he would have been happy to give 75% of his income to the government?

    That seems dubious, given the charitable history of left wingers.

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    Re: Actor Renounces His Citizenship in Snit Over French Tax Burden

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    As I stated.. the actor disagrees because he is a right winger and his candidate lost.

    As for "fair share" that is very simple. The "fair" part falls apart when wealthy people and corporations use loopholes not available to 99% of the population to avoid paying their full taxes. And THAT is what this tax and other movements in "liberal" Europe is on about.

    The time has come for corporations and the uber wealthy to pay the same tax rates we all pay and not in single digits like they have been for decades.

    He disagrees because he can and you resent that. I don't care why he left. Maybe he is a bellweather and perhaps he is all alone, but the reality is that he left.

    For this actor, the barn door is still open and he is outside. Are you going to chase him or are you going to tie the other horses to their stalls?

    "The time has come...". What does that mean? Is this one of those Mayan things? Is there some movement you started/joined to stick it to someone? Who are these uber wealthy that don't pay enough taxes? Do they have names or are they just an faceless concept?

    Which loopholes aren't available to the 99%? Are they excluded by name or is there an eligibility to claim them? What exactly is a loophole? Are we talking about tax cheating or just tax avoidance? Perhaps there are some countries where tax cheating is legal and I don't want to be seen defending them.

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    Re: Actor Renounces His Citizenship in Snit Over French Tax Burden

    This isn't proof of what you claimed.


    First off, he makes his money in French cinema.
    He is hired by those who want to hire him. They can choose not to.

    He makes a handful of movies a year and French cinema is hardly giving out million dollar payments for has-been actor with a drinking problem.
    Do you know what endorsement deals he has, what points he gets per picture? His entire revenue stream?
    I'd be shocked if his income didn't exceed 7 figures annually.

    If he even gets close the 1 million in income a year, then I would be surprised.
    You would... I wouldn't. And let's say he didn't make 7 figures annually (which I highly doubt)... good for him for speaking out for those who do.

    Secondly as it has been stated over and over.. this 75% tax rate effects 2000 people out of 60 million.. so a little bit of perspective please.
    It's a punitive tax on people of success. But hey... socialists like you think it's your money.

    And like Obama's tax on the rich... that money is a fart in a hurricane in relation to what it can do to solve the economic problems. And worse... it is going to cost them far more in investment.

    Today it's 2000... and like those takes on millionaires in the US... now a millionaire is someone who makes 250,000 annually.

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    Re: Actor Renounces His Citizenship in Snit Over French Tax Burden

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    This isn't proof of what you claimed.
    That he is a right winger that supported Sarkozy? What proof do you need... a handwritten statement saying so? It is well known he supported Sarkozy and the right in France.

    You are deflecting because you lost a debate.. just admit it and get over it.

    He is hired by those who want to hire him. They can choose not to.
    And very few want to hire him now days.. especially in hollywood. Relieving yourself in the isle of a commercial airplane kinda puts a dent in your image. Look at IMDB and check out what kind of movies he is making and the numbers the last 5 to 10 years.. hardly a massive amount or alternatively movies that give the big bucks. It is mostly french movies and they do not pay out millions of dollars/euros in actor fees.

    Do you know what endorsement deals he has, what points he gets per picture? His entire revenue stream?
    I'd be shocked if his income didn't exceed 7 figures annually.
    Of course not, but you seem to think he is some kind of hollywood star.. he aint and has not been for over a decade. The last Hollywood movie he was in, he was playing a cook in a minor role in the Life of Pi.. hardly a blockbuster. The last "blockbuster" or remotely close to that was 102 Dalmations in 2000. His big hollywood incomes came in the 1980s and 1990s.

    You would... I wouldn't. And let's say he didn't make 7 figures annually (which I highly doubt)... good for him for speaking out for those who do.
    LOL awww.. those poor rich people who cant live off a million euros a year.... shame on the poor who dont have 12000 euros a year to live off.. damn slackers!

    It's a punitive tax on people of success. But hey... socialists like you think it's your money.
    1.) calling me a socialist does not make me a socialist.
    2.) calling me a socialist is not an insult as you think it is.. only in the US.
    3.) Do you even know what a socialist is?

    and finally get some reality sense. We are talking about 2000 people in France. The actual rich still pay low capital gains taxes...and not the high income taxes. It is a PR stunt pure and simple. These "wealthy" 2000 people can just get their compensation changed.. away from direct paychecks and put into stocks and that would mean they would pay capital gains tax instead. Problem solved.

    And like Obama's tax on the rich... that money is a fart in a hurricane in relation to what it can do to solve the economic problems. And worse... it is going to cost them far more in investment.
    Ahh and finally we get to the root of the issue.. it aint France but Obama you are mad at... awwww did the black boogie man scare you with tax hikes on filthy rich slackers? Why did you just not start another anti-Obama tax on the rich thread? Why dont you start a thread defending the banks and their massive bonuses for failure?

    The only time anyone on the right should be worried about tax increases is if Obama goes after capital gains and loopholes... now THAT would mean a massive tax increase.. no wait.. that would mean that the rich would actually pay taxes like the rest of us!

    Today it's 2000... and like those takes on millionaires in the US... now a millionaire is someone who makes 250,000 annually.
    No, a millionaire is a person who has liquid non real estate assets of one million or over. What he makes annually has nothing to do with it. You cant even get your freaking definitions right.. gezz.
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    Re: Actor Renounces His Citizenship in Snit Over French Tax Burden

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    Interesting that governments are looking to confiscate money from individuals and the individuals are the ones who are seen as greedy. The governments can print their own money, the individuals can not.
    That's left-wing logic for you. “Greed” is defined to that mindset, not by a desire to take what belongs to someone else; but by a desire to keep what one has rightfully earned.
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    Re: Actor Renounces His Citizenship in Snit Over French Tax Burden

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    That he is a right winger that supported Sarkozy? What proof do you need... a handwritten statement saying so? It is well known he supported Sarkozy and the right in France.

    You are deflecting because you lost a debate.. just admit it and get over it.
    You failed to provide proof... just because he was a Sark supporter doesn't support the claim you made.

    Lost the debate... ROTFLOL... try again.


    And very few want to hire him now days.. especially in hollywood.
    He's 63, has paid 145 million Euros in taxes and has 80 people employed.
    I don't think he cares if anyone wants him anymore... (as you seem to be the Hollywierd Insider); he may have cared 25-years ago... today I doubt it even if your guess just like the ne you provided no proof for is correct.

    Of course not, but you seem to think he is some kind of hollywood star.. he aint and has not been for over a decade. The last Hollywood movie he was in, he was playing a cook in a minor role in the Life of Pi.. hardly a blockbuster. The last "blockbuster" or remotely close to that was 102 Dalmations in 2000. His big hollywood incomes came in the 1980s and 1990s.
    The guy is a star... an old star. So what if he isn't bang'in out the blockbusters... he doesn't have to.

    Tell me PEU... what great things have you accomplished in your life?
    To often people who are angry because they haven't sound just like you. Jealous, angry, and ready to have the makers knocked down. That's a sad existence.


    LOL awww.. those poor rich people who cant live off a million euros a year.... shame on the poor who dont have 12000 euros a year to live off.. damn slackers!
    Threads like this are perfect for revealing Socialists with poisoned minds who are swimming in a ocean of envy.
    It must be a sad life... to pine to watch government be your theft. You may not live in France but you pine for government like a drug addict looking for his next fix. It's a sad existence, but hey... I'm glad it isn't me in that hole.


    1.) calling me a socialist does not make me a socialist.
    2.) calling me a socialist is not an insult as you think it is.. only in the US.
    3.) Do you even know what a socialist is?
    PEU... you're a socialist. You've left a trail of posts that lead you right to Marx's front door.

    and finally get some reality sense. We are talking about 2000 people in France.
    I don't care if it's 100 people... 10 people or 2 people being targeted. It's perverted... and it's ridiculously stupid... but hey... it's an ideology you and Obama subscribe to.




    Ahh and finally we get to the root of the issue.. it aint France but Obama you are mad at... awwww did the black boogie man scare you with tax hikes on filthy rich slackers? Why did you just not start another anti-Obama tax on the rich thread? Why dont you start a thread defending the banks and their massive bonuses for failure?

    The only time anyone on the right should be worried about tax increases is if Obama goes after capital gains and loopholes... now THAT would mean a massive tax increase.. no wait.. that would mean that the rich would actually pay taxes like the rest of us!



    No, a millionaire is a person who has liquid non real estate assets of one million or over. What he makes annually has nothing to do with it. You cant even get your freaking definitions right.. gezz.[/QUOTE]
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    Re: Actor Renounces His Citizenship in Snit Over French Tax Burden

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    You failed to provide proof... just because he was a Sark supporter doesn't support the claim you made.

    Lost the debate... ROTFLOL... try again.
    Yea yea what ever... seems you dont understand the obvious. Are you not mad that your man Romney lost? Are you not acting EXACTLY the same childish way almost every day on these boards with your constant anti-Obama threads? This guy is no different. He was a big time Sarkozy support and he lost... now he is taking it out on the new government in the only way he can... by acting like an idiot.

    I would not be surprised if he gets hit down sooner or later with evidence that he does not even earn a million plus a year..

    He's 63, has paid 145 million Euros in taxes and has 80 people employed.
    Oh he does now? dont you think that if has anyone employed (other than his housekeeper), then they would be employed by a company he owns and not him personally? And dont you think that they will remain employed despite this.. since his whole market is France and nothing else? Also so what if he paid 145 million euros over 40+ years... he use to get millions per film.. not so much anymore.

    I don't think he cares if anyone wants him anymore... (as you seem to be the Hollywierd Insider); he may have cared 25-years ago... today I doubt it even if your guess just like the ne you provided no proof for is correct.
    So you admit that he does not even have the income that meets the 75% tax rate requirement then?

    The guy is a star... an old star. So what if he isn't bang'in out the blockbusters... he doesn't have to.
    Of course he does... to meet the 1 million euros a year income.. as in wages.. payroll income. That is where the tax is being put on btw if you did not know... not on income from shares and so on.

    Tell me PEU... what great things have you accomplished in your life?
    To often people who are angry because they haven't sound just like you. Jealous, angry, and ready to have the makers knocked down. That's a sad existence.
    LOL so you are now admitting you lost the debate because all you have left is personal attacks... classy Zimmer.. classy.

    I don't care if it's 100 people... 10 people or 2 people being targeted. It's perverted... and it's ridiculously stupid... but hey... it's an ideology you and Obama subscribe to.
    What is perverted is your gun laws allowing 11 year olds to own guns but not allowing 20 year olds to drink alcohol... THAT is perverted.

    This what France has done... is no where near perverted and quite normal. The UK implemented a similar tax on bankers a few years ago.. yes at a lower rate, but still it was a punitive PR stunt.
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    Re: Actor Renounces His Citizenship in Snit Over French Tax Burden

    An individual has, or should have, the freedom to buy whatever he wants if the value is there. Obviously Depardeau feels the money he has to pay to live in France is no longer worthwhile. If it is the same in Belgium then he might move again.

    Unless countries compete for people who create wealth they will have lower standards of living. We need these creative people just like we need all skilled people in order to make a better society. Now the French have lost several million dollars from this one person, have brought negative publicity on themselves once more, and have had a famous personality make a more public statement than others who have been doing the same thing for a while. The same holds true of people from Italy, the UK, and Germany as well as others from Western Europe who flee the high taxes and the stifling rigidity of the cultures they're leaving behind.

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