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    Re: Actor Renounces His Citizenship in Snit Over French Tax Burden

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
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    To answer you last sentence it's easy. In the case of the former one is escaping oppressive government (so we cheer), and in the latter Parasite Nation is trying to grant illegals citizenship.

    Illegals were granted amnesty twice, the last time was in 1985. The problem with these illegals was supposed to get fixed. It wasn't.

    To answer your first part... Yes there are clear answers, and yes it is an affront to those who have received citizenship legally to grant someone citizenship who makes a run for the border... our border.
    Well "oppressive" being the operative word here, personally while I may not agree with higher taxes sometimes I don't consider them by themselves to be the mark of an oppressive government. That term is better saved for actual oppressive governments.

    Anyway the legality of illegal immigrant isn't the point of my question, my question is about value as in who values the idea of being an American or French citizen more. Does an extremely weathly person value his citizenship or his country that much if he's fleeing for having to pay higher taxes? Obviously it seems to me that he values his money over his country, now I'm not saying one can't love their country but still want to flee depending on the circumstance. History is full of such examples, however the more heroic ones don't revolve around one's taxes, they are things more like "The Nazis are coming therefore I'm fleeing my country so I can one day return to fight them."

    So ask yourself this question, if we offered up American citizenship as a prize to whomever was willing to risk their life attempting to cross the US-Mexican border do you think the dirt famer in Mexico would be more willing or the mutli-billionare who is willing to flee for tax reasons? I'm not saying we should grant illegal immigrants citizenship or anything like that, but of the two which do you think would be more likely considering the behavior we've seen from some super wealthy? I think one clearly would risk more to be an American or French citizen than others.

    How can we hold someone to be a hero, or a model of behavior, someone who embodies the good old fashion American spirit of hard work and being a self-made man, someone who defines through his life what it is to be an American, when that person flees the country and won't even live there because of taxes? Since when has taxes or money been the most important thing about being an American? Should our heroes be people who won't even live in this country?

    Of course we were talking about France in the OP not America, but still the questions apply to anyone who would abandon their country for wealth.

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    Re: Actor Renounces His Citizenship in Snit Over French Tax Burden

    Interesting that governments are looking to confiscate money from individuals and the individuals are the ones who are seen as greedy. The governments can print their own money, the individuals can not.

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    Re: Actor Renounces His Citizenship in Snit Over French Tax Burden

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
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    Gérard Depardieu cast in lead role as celebrities line up behind Sarkozy | World news | The Observer


    I think he might be pissed about punitive taxation of the wealthy.

    But not in PEU's world.
    First off, he makes his money in French cinema. He makes a handful of movies a year and French cinema is hardly giving out million dollar payments for has-been actor with a drinking problem. If he even gets close the 1 million in income a year, then I would be surprised.

    Secondly as it has been stated over and over.. this 75% tax rate effects 2000 people out of 60 million.. so a little bit of perspective please.
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    Re: Actor Renounces His Citizenship in Snit Over French Tax Burden

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    I think there is 1 person who disagrees with you--the actor in question. I think it always boils down to a difference in the meaning of "fair share."
    As I stated.. the actor disagrees because he is a right winger and his candidate lost.

    As for "fair share" that is very simple. The "fair" part falls apart when wealthy people and corporations use loopholes not available to 99% of the population to avoid paying their full taxes. And THAT is what this tax and other movements in "liberal" Europe is on about.

    The time has come for corporations and the uber wealthy to pay the same tax rates we all pay and not in single digits like they have been for decades.
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    Re: Actor Renounces His Citizenship in Snit Over French Tax Burden

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    this 75% tax rate effects 2000 people out of 60 million.. so a little bit of perspective please.
    So it is unfair. Figures!

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    Re: Actor Renounces His Citizenship in Snit Over French Tax Burden

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    So it is unfair. Figures!
    Sorry, I know it confuses right wingers often.. figures and facts.
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    Re: Actor Renounces His Citizenship in Snit Over French Tax Burden

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Sorry, I know it confuses right wingers often.. figures and facts.
    And as I stated: "So it is unfair. Figures!"

    Did you have trouble understanding that?

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    Re: Actor Renounces His Citizenship in Snit Over French Tax Burden

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    And Conservatives dont understand that stuff needs to be paid for and everyone has to contribute.

    Plus no one is sucking a person's wealth away.. it is temporary plus for only incomes over 1 million euros.. that is 1.3 million dollars.. everything under is taxed normally and if you cant live off 999.999 euros, then you seriously have a problem.
    Interesting how you set the standard in which a person should live. Anything above your standard is really not theirs. Of course that's why he left, he didn't agree with you either.
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    Re: Actor Renounces His Citizenship in Snit Over French Tax Burden

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    Gérard Depardieu cast in lead role as celebrities line up behind Sarkozy | World news | The Observer




    First off, he makes his money in French cinema. He makes a handful of movies a year and French cinema is hardly giving out million dollar payments for has-been actor with a drinking problem. If he even gets close the 1 million in income a year, then I would be surprised.

    Secondly as it has been stated over and over.. this 75% tax rate effects 2000 people out of 60 million.. so a little bit of perspective please.
    One of those 2,000 is not there any more, is he. It's been done here, during periods of high taxes, revenue goes down. Why is that?
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    Re: Actor Renounces His Citizenship in Snit Over French Tax Burden

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    I'm lov'in it.
    Well done and thanks Gerard, for you further exposed the socialists for the vile parasites they are.

    What kind of message are the French sending the world?

    Do not invest here.
    Do not create wealth here.
    Do not create jobs here.
    You didn't build it.
    Your money is our money.

    Would you want to invest in France?

    Just brilliant on the part of the socialists. But hey! It will be a lab to show us how trickle up works... ROTFLOL... because Obama's 6 trillion, his business illiteracy and hostility and didn't make an impact on our Parasite Nation.

    These morons in France are screwing themselves yet again. This move of theirs is as brilliant as their idea to reduce the work week to 35-hours and make working longer punishable.

    That's what happens in a country rife with envy and ignorance... Socialism.

    The fall-out from this will be interesting to watch... or should I say the whoosh sound of France going down the crapper. Not the normal type either, this will have that jet-like sound of an aviation crapper.

    Paying punitive taxes is "patriotic"? Sounds like Obama/Biden idiocy.
    And he is "unpatriotic" for not giving 75% of his income to the government. Sound familiar?

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