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    Re: Clackamas man, armed, confronts mall shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Did I say the US.. Wow, your reading comprehension is almost as bad as your debating skills. Guns generally follow the same path as drugs just in reverse. The biggest customer of drugs in N. America.... The United States. Also, the largest producer in N.America of guns as well. Try using some logic, it will help out your debating skills. It also helps if you have a bit of reading comprehension skills to go along with it.
    so what is the big gun producing state bordering columbia?

    Logic would help your arguments

    you are emotobabbling over guns and have no facts on your side

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    Re: Clackamas man, armed, confronts mall shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Really? I mean I realize it was waaaaaayyyyy back at post 32, but you said...



    You sir, are not only lying, but you are horribly bad at it....You are dismissed.
    If this is not true, then how do guns from major manufacturers end up in the hands of criminals?
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    Re: Clackamas man, armed, confronts mall shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so what is the big gun producing state bordering columbia?

    Logic would help your arguments

    you are emotobabbling over guns and have no facts on your side
    Did I say that columbia boarders a major gun producing state. Again, failure of reading comprehension.
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    Re: Clackamas man, armed, confronts mall shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    If this is not true, then how do guns from major manufacturers end up in the hands of criminals?
    Your circular fail is monumental....I'm out....
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    Re: Clackamas man, armed, confronts mall shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    If this is not true, then how do guns from major manufacturers end up in the hands of criminals?
    through ILLEGAL activities

    1) stolen

    2) straw purchases (ie an illegal purchase)

    3) gifts from family members which may or may not be illegal

    4) guns acquired legally by a criminal before the criminal became a prohibited person-however further possession is then illegal

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    Re: Clackamas man, armed, confronts mall shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    through ILLEGAL activities

    1) stolen

    2) straw purchases (ie an illegal purchase)

    3) gifts from family members which may or may not be illegal

    4) guns acquired legally by a criminal before the criminal became a prohibited person-however further possession is then illegal
    So your saying they are stolen or sold to them from legal owners?
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    Re: Clackamas man, armed, confronts mall shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Again, drugs are not even close to the same issue. And no, bad guys will not always have arms. The number of bad guys that have arms is directly cooralated to how easy it is to get them. When nearly 1 in 4 people in the states own a gun, there is probably a good chance a bad guy is going to get ahold of a weapon. In places like china, japan and many other countries, weapons are not easily available. Which is why crimes are committed less often and with less lethal weapons. The proof is easily searchable. Crime rates in countries that ban guns is significantly lower than the US (not including countries that are at war).
    This is just plain foolishness. Many countries have high levels of gun ownership. Look at Switzerland. Or Israel. But they haven't even a smidgeon of our gun crimes.

    So its not the guns. The problem is not the guns. The solution is not the guns.

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    Re: Clackamas man, armed, confronts mall shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Did I say that columbia boarders a major gun producing state. Again, failure of reading comprehension.
    YEah here you go

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Mexico and Columbia are at war with drug lords.. And since they boarder a country with millions of guns, getting one is easy.

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    Re: Clackamas man, armed, confronts mall shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    So your saying they are stolen or sold to them from legal owners?
    did you have a problem reading what I wrote.

    so what laws do you want?

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    Re: Clackamas man, armed, confronts mall shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    If this is not true, then how do guns from major manufacturers end up in the hands of criminals?
    Verses guns from .... what ? Again, it is not the guns. Its our culture.

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