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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Insult is a subjective term, meaning that one man's insult is another's opening offer. Partisan hacks love subjective standards.

    Already calling names eh? Well, you know what you can do then....
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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You do realize that a negotiation means that your side must give up some things to right?
    Yep. So there must be some cuts. And if Obama holds out and we go over he cliff, there will be some. So reason says that the offer given wasn't better than that. However, we need more details before we can go too far in our evaluation.

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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    You have no idea whatsoever what was offered, so you saying this is just ridiculous.
    I've only posted several times what Obama wants...

    He wants anyone who is even "moderately" rich to pay more in taxes (those making 250k a year).

    Republicans want to raise taxes on anyone who makes a million a year or more.

    Obama has no desire to cut any spending whatsoever (he even wants to spend more) and raise taxes for his excess spending.

    Republicans want to cut spending and raise taxes on those who make a million or more.

    What Obama wants to do is stick the "rich" with the financial responsibility to get us off the fiscal cliff while he continues to financially support his voting base with free government entitlements and benefits, all the while pandering to ridiculous union demands.

    Republicans want to cut spending and raise taxes on the super wealthy..

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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Already calling names eh? Well, you know what you can do then....
    Nope. Pointing out the flawed use of the term. I called no one but partisans anything.

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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    ... so now you're saying that Obama didn't get everything he wanted.
    I never implied that he did.

    He got almost everything he wanted.

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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Nope. Pointing out the flawed use of the term. I called no one but partisans anything.

    All while failing to look in a mirror. How ironic.
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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What is Obama's plan? Raise taxes, and spend more? Not going to do it friend.
    Again, you have no idea what was offered, so any assertion that Obama just wants it all his own way is ridiculous.
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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    The only reason why we're even having this debate is because the idiot Obama demanded that congress authorize so much spending that will be implemented next month and he has no way to pay for all this spending.

    In short, Obama and his congress spent more than they have and are now sticking the US taxpayers with the bill.

    The thing is - Obama believes that it is the responsibility of those making 250k or more to foot the bill, while the majority of Americans who have a household income of 60K or less can just live off of those making 250k or more via entitlement programs and other benefits.

    With him printing money like its toilet paper (hence devaluing it) and his unwillingness to cut spending and raise taxes on those who have investments (which will surely depreciate with the value of the dollar) our economy could almost certainly collapse. First you will see massive inflation and then you will see people pulling out of the market entirely to save their own ass.

    This is the perfect storm for a great-great depression if not an entire financial collapse.

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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    I ask again: what is this Boehner proposal on reducing/cutting/reforming (whatever you want to call it) entitlements?

    Can someone please present the details on this alleged plan please?
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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    In my eyes this makes no sense. Both sides of the table are being childish. Republicans: stop blocking tax hikes on the rich, are you really going to ruin it for everybody to take a stand? Democrats: you get what you want in tax hikes on the top 2%, are you really going to ruin it for everybody because of spending to a program that will be cut if we go off the cliff. This isn't a game of poker this is real people we are talking about. Stop gambling with the future of america and do the right thing.
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