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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    It becomes more obvious each and every day that obama wants us to go off the cliff. He needs panic and chaos to implement his true socialist agenda and he needs to destroy the Republican party in the process.

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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Obama has no reason to negotiate to get what he wants, he gets what he wants--a tax hike on the rich--on Jan 1, 2013. Boehner should publically say he is prepared to accept the tax hikes on the rich if Obama comes up with his promised 'balanced approach' of $800 billion in spending cuts. If Obama refuses, then we go over the cliff.
    Obama isn't interested in cutting spending - he is interested in spending more and taxing more.

    What a realistic solution would be is cut all the pork you can and temporarily raise taxes on those making over a million - which is exactly what republicans want to do, however democrats have no desire to keep on giving their voting base free taxpayer money in the form of benefits or grants.

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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Obama was given almost everything he wanted yet he (and his progressive robots) still rejected the proposal.
    You have no idea whatsoever what was offered, so you saying this is just ridiculous.
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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Obama was given almost everything he wanted yet he (and his progressive robots) still rejected the proposal.

    Obama and his progressives want everything done their way, and want all their demands met or they will play "victims" of "unreasonable republicans" (which the media will gladly spin for their master party)..

    Honestly, I don't think Obama wants to do anything - he knows his policies are failures and he has no desire accepting any republican proposals because he's just that partisan. What he wants is four more years of lavish vacations and endless rounds of golf while he blames his own lack of economic progress on republicans - which the lying mainstream media will gladly help him portray.
    How do you know that?

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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I know exactly what was rejected read my previous post.

    Don't tell me what I know and what I don't know - unlike you I just don't read headlines and form my conclusion based on that alone.

    Fiscal cliff: Republican offered to 'increase tax rates' - Telegraph

    Start with that first!
    Your link disputes you. It says the offer fell short, so it was not everything Obama asked for. But, we still don't have all the details.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I am not aware of any Republican or Boehner proposal on entitlements.

    Can anyone produce that?
    Quote Originally Posted by Duece
    That's a strange declaration given that you know virtually no details of the offer.
    Here is my point on this....Obama through Giethner offered a proposal that was really more insult than plan, in that he said he wanted

    a. Tax increase on those making over $250K (something he has never revised since day one in 2009)

    b. Increase spending through a new stimulus

    c. $400 Bilion in spending cuts, to be determined later, (and here is the important part) with NO guarantees...

    The republicans should have walked out on that ridiculous presentation. It was designed to insult, and force repubs to negotiate with themselves. Now, repubs have caved on hiking taxes, as a part of social spending reductions that are the real cause of our debt. and Obama knows this, but still rejects it, in fact Iguanaman stated it in this thread....

    Quote Originally Posted by Iguanaman
    There will be no Social Insurance reform as part of the tax increases on the wealthy, they are off the table....
    So, just what the heck are we negotiating? Our complete surrender? nah, that's foolish. Vote a bill lowering the bottom 3 tax rates, and keeping the top two the same, putting it back in Obama and company's lap, then bow out, vote present, and let Obama own his BS.
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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Oh I know plenty, most notably Obama wants a higher tax rate on anyone making $250,000 a year, while republicans argue (and rightly so) it should be $1,000,000 a year.

    That is pretty much the meat of the differences.

    There are several problems with the 250,000 proposal by Obama. Hell there are dozens of problems with our tax code that make both proposals semi-retarded.
    ... so now you're saying that Obama didn't get everything he wanted.
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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Your link disputes you. It says the offer fell short, so it was not everything Obama asked for. But, we still don't have all the details.
    You do realize that a negotiation means that your side must give up some things to right?
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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Insult is a subjective term, meaning that one man's insult is another's opening offer. Partisan hacks love subjective standards.

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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    You have no idea whatsoever what was offered, so you saying this is just ridiculous.
    What is Obama's plan? Raise taxes, and spend more? Not going to do it friend.
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