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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Damn, you whine about being insulted, and you misread me that badly? Not sure how to address such ignorance civilly.

    No, I don't think I do Joe...I've know you through your writings for nearly 10 years now, or longer, and if nothing else you are at least consistent in your lean, as much as you like to play word games, and semantics it doesn't hide the fact that your lean is left to far left on the spectrum.

    So if I don't have it right Joe, why don't you lay it out in plain clear language that everyone can easily understand? You won't.

    So, what ever dude, you do what you want, but being 'uncivil' is par for the course when progressives are outed, so take your best shot.....
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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    I am very aware of where the phrase originates from, but we are speaking legally...and under the law, Justice is blind based on the merits of the case not the persons race, religion, gender or bank account.

    And NO, people should not have the same basic standard of living...if they WANT the same or better than what they have, they need to EARN IT. In order for it to be GIVEN to one person someone else must be penalized unfairly to generate the revenue needed to GIVE that person what they have not earned.

    The tax system SHOULD be the same % rate whether or not you earn $20K or $200K a year....X % rate amount of $200K certainly is more than the same X % rate amount of $20K.

    Unfortunately our government doesnt really care about doing whats right...or even lawful ....or even whats not within its powers to do but does any way.
    Sorry if I was not clear. My intent was to support your statement, not argue against it.
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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, I don't think I do Joe...I've know you through your writings for nearly 10 years now, or longer, and if nothing else you are at least consistent in your lean, as much as you like to play word games, and semantics it doesn't hide the fact that your lean is left to far left on the spectrum.

    So if I don't have it right Joe, why don't you lay it out in plain clear language that everyone can easily understand? You won't.

    So, what ever dude, you do what you want, but being 'uncivil' is par for the course when progressives are outed, so take your best shot.....
    Being left of center is not equal to what you said. You misread often, get it wrong, weakly blame it on semantics, but the truth is you blind yourself with "leftist" speak, arguing stereotypes and not what is actually before you. I've spent this ten or so years trying to get you to see the difference.

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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Libs love to call the GOP the "party of no", yet Reid won't even vote on Boehner's proposal. Instead, he's sent the Senate away for the holidays.

    Truth is, Obama very much wants to go over the "cliff", so he can later call it a tax cut when he extends the rates for the sub-$250K crowd.

    How is it a "tax cut" when the rates are the same?

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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Obama needs to stand firm. He has the right approach....
    Division, Class Warfare, propaganda, and outright lies....Great approach.

    ...and has the backing of the majority of Americans.
    On that I will give you that....Obama was re elected, and has the leverage in this. Some in the Republican party need to learn that.

    Obama was too eager to try to appease the Republicans in his first term and as a result they stymied every effort he made at moving this country forward.
    Just not true. Look, Demo's had control of all three branches of legislative power in DC from 2008 when he got elected, to 2010 when the american people elected a majority in the house to repubs explicitly to place a check on the demo dream train that was running down the tracks unabated.

    Hopefully he has learned.
    Learned what? by pass congress? do more against the will of the people through the bureaucratic machine? I think you're going to see a real attempt to do just that, but he'd better be careful, you can only stave off scandals, and overstep your authority for so long.

    Republicans are protecting the super wealthy off the backs of the working and middle class.
    That's nonsense talking point communist propaganda.

    They are willing to hold the working/middle class hostage to get breaks for the wealthiest of Americans.
    Again, equally nonsense. If this were true then why'd Boehner come out with the raise in revenue of $800 billion straight out of the gate? Obama has had the luxury of not having to negotiate anything because Boehner is doing fine damage negotiating with himself very effectively.

    Americans see this and Republicans will pay the price politically if they don't change.
    I got news for ya, ultimately it is the President that shoulders the blame when recessions occur. No one remembers who the speaker was during the depression, but they do remember who was President.

    Obama should hold firm and let Republicans make their own bed.
    What are you talking about? Demo's like you are going to blame repubs, and Bush for everything including the rain as long as you think you can get away with it...Repubs should tell him to talk to the hand.
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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Being left of center is not equal to what you said. You misread often, get it wrong, weakly blame it on semantics, but the truth is you blind yourself with "leftist" speak, arguing stereotypes and not what is actually before you. I've spent this ten or so years trying to get you to see the difference.

    Jesus, even that is just not honest. Can't you do the simplest of requests without having to drag it out over ten posts? I'm done with ya on this...
    Last edited by j-mac; 12-20-12 at 06:37 PM.
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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Jesus, even that is just not honest.
    Bull ****. No you really have to tell yourself this silliness?

    Anyway, you care to address anything I actually said, feel free.

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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Bull ****. No you really have to tell yourself this silliness?

    Anyway, you care to address anything I actually said, feel free.

    In the words of one of your hero's Former congressperson Barney Frank....Sir, arguing with you is like debating a kitchen table, It is pointless.
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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    In the words of one of your hero's Former congressperson Barney Frank....Sir, arguing with you is like debating a kitchen table, It is pointless.
    How would you know? You've even comment how well my discussions go with those who do so reasonably. You might try it someday.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    In the words of one of your hero's Former congressperson Barney Frank....Sir, arguing with you is like debating a kitchen table, It is pointless.
    Or another old saying, "Who is the biggest fool, the fool or the person that argues with him?"
    Only a fool measures equality by results and not opportunities.

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